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    can someone tell me about a "steering sensor?" Never have heard of one and wonder about it. We have a 2014 RT-S. Thanks.....Hope this is not like getting a bucket of prop wash for the piper!! 😜😱

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    Nope; they DO exist...
    That sensor ties into the Vehicle Stability System, and keeps track of where the wheels are pointed (A steering-ANGLE sensor...)
    There's also a yaw sensor hidden in there somewhere...
    The bike's computer uses these inputs, to decide if it needs to tighten the grip on your shoulder...
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    Thanks Bob. I've been complaining some due to pulling to the right. Techs said they adjusted the sensor. Still pulls to right following lazer alignment. I suspect it's the tires.

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    I am not a tech, but I had a steering sensor go out on my 2011. Got the yellow screen but could not see much difference in steering....anyway, they changed it out and all was well. It was about the size of a large dime with a small screw in the middle. Maybe a chip inside the capsule or whatever...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Razorback View Post
    Thanks Bob. I've been complaining some due to pulling to the right. Techs said they adjusted the sensor. Still pulls to right following lazer alignment. I suspect it's the tires.
    Check this video... just because you got a laser alignment doesn't mean there were other issues causing it to pull.

    This is a ST-S but the issue he discusses could cause a pull after laser alignment.



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    Recently had mine aligned and the sensor was off by 5 degrees (saw this on the screen myself). After it was reset the steering was much easier. Everyone should have a laser alignment.

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    Mine doing the same thing still pulling to the right . Shop found the stearing nuckle has slop in it they are talking to BRP to see what is ok for slop. No work yey.
    Quote Originally Posted by Razorback View Post
    Thanks Bob. I've been complaining some due to pulling to the right. Techs said they adjusted the sensor. Still pulls to right following lazer alignment. I suspect it's the tires.

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    The reason that they "Zero" the sensor; is so that the bike has an accurate idea of where the wheels are pointed.
    It doesn't affect the steering; it just monitors it.

    Pulling to the right can be as simple as the crown in the road...
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    There are 2 sensors that need to be reset after an alignment. The steering angle sensor, has been discussed in this thread. If it is not zeroed, it will not cause the Spyder to pull in either direction. It causes other problems. The other steering sensor is the torque sensor. It measures the input force to the handlebars. If it is not zeroed out, it will cause the Spyder to pull to one direction or the other depending on which way it is off.

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    I gather that when the angle sensor reads zero, and the wheels are pointing dead straight forward; the torque sensor should also be at zero?
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    Quote Originally Posted by billybovine View Post
    There are 2 sensors that need to be reset after an alignment. The steering angle sensor, has been discussed in this thread. If it is not zeroed, it will not cause the Spyder to pull in either direction. It causes other problems. The other steering sensor is the torque sensor. It measures the input force to the handlebars. If it is not zeroed out, it will cause the Spyder to pull to one direction or the other depending on which way it is off.
    Is this sensor adjustment an included part of a laser aglinment ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    I gather that when the angle sensor reads zero, and the wheels are pointing dead straight forward; the torque sensor should also be at zero?
    Nope!

    The SAS tells tell the DPS and other systems which way the wheels are pointed. The torque sensor tell the DPS how much force is being put into the handlebars to make a turn. So you are going straight down the road the SAS is calibrated right and at zero. But if the torque sensor is not at zero and off far enough. The DPS will think you are trying to turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobey View Post
    Is this sensor adjustment an included part of a laser aglinment ?
    I would think so. When I was at the Lamonster BBQ, I watched Lamont do a alignment and he reset both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billybovine View Post
    Nope!

    The SAS tells tell the DPS and other systems which way the wheels are pointed. The torque sensor tell the DPS how much force is being put into the handlebars to make a turn. So you are going straight down the road the SAS is calibrated right and at zero. But if the torque sensor is not at zero and off far enough. The DPS will think you are trying to turn.
    The weekend must be sneaking up on me...
    I thought that it sounded as if you agreed with my VERY in-expert guess:
    Straight ahead, and the two sensors reading zero...

    But you started out with a "nope?...

    Can you tell me what I missed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    The weekend must be sneaking up on me...
    I thought that it sounded as if you agreed with my VERY in-expert guess:
    Straight ahead, and the two sensors reading zero...

    But you started out with a "nope?...

    Can you tell me what I missed?
    That's not what I said. If the SAS sensor is calibrated correctly. (That is only one sensor.) and the torque sensor is not calibrated correctly (The other sensor). The Spyder DPS will want to steer to left or right depending on which direction the calibration is off.

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    Nope!

    The SAS tells tell the DPS and other systems which way the wheels are pointed. The torque sensor tell the DPS how much force is being put into the handlebars to make a turn. So you are going straight down the road the SAS is calibrated right and at zero. But if the torque sensor is not at zero and off far enough. The DPS will think you are trying to turn.
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    Thanks for solving that mystery for me!
    I guess that the Glucose from all of the "Halloween Taste-Testing"; is going to my head!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Thanks for solving that mystery for me!
    I guess that the Glucose from all of the "Halloween Taste-Testing"; is going to my head!
    The tiny Mars bars are my weakness. I don't think you guys below the border have them.
    You need to have an injector pen ready, full of Novo-Rapid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobey View Post
    Is this sensor adjustment an included part of a laser aglinment ?
    If you are going to a Can-Am dealer that does the ROLO alignment, they obviously will have BUDS. Most of the independents have BUDS, you can verify the status of that by going to http://www.spydercomfort.com/independant%20dealers.htm


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Ghost View Post
    If you are going to a Can-Am dealer that does the ROLO alignment, they obviously will have BUDS. Most of the independents have BUDS, you can verify the status of that by going to http://www.spydercomfort.com/independant%20dealers.htm
    is that an up to date list? i see nothing for massachusetts or connecticut area. where would i go to get that alignment done if nothing in state?
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