NHTSA investigation update

[Cruzr Joe]

I could be wrong...
But didn't he sell his, and go back to a "leaner"?

CORRECTION .......................................... "Leaners" .................... to be politically correct should now be referred to as ......................... "Tip Overs"


Cruzr Joe

[Bob Denman]

But I was trying to be polite!
After all; that IS what happens when they lean too far!

[ARtraveler]

A few basic criteria will need to be satisfied.
First the fix must be effective.
Second it has to be approved.
Third if it involves a safety issue it has to be provided without cost to the current owner.

It’s interesting to debate the wheres and wherefores of the engineering as well as the cost to BRP but in the end it’s like speculating on how many Spyders can dance on the head of a pin.

Just my $.015 worth.

Was thinking along the same lines also and then you spoke. x 2.

[robmorg]

But I was trying to be polite!
After all; that IS what happens when they lean too far!

That is exactly why I now ride a .

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

what i wonder is if they don't come up with a fix, can the the safety board stop them from selling them here in the states

....It might be an issue as far as the 998 is concerned , and BRP might not want to go through the trouble of proving it was a combination of the BODY + ENGINE + EXHAUST . So with the 1330 Ace in two models now anything with the 998 may just be eliminated............................JMHO.....Mik e

[flamingobabe]

This is a concern of mine......I would understand it....but us 2013 owners have been screwed ......1st the Spyders are a heat machine.....dangerous....then the price cuts.....now if this comes to be......elimination of 998.......disappointed

....It might be an issue as far as the 998 is concerned , and BRP might not want to go through the trouble of proving it was a combination of the BODY + ENGINE + EXHAUST . So with the 1330 Ace in two models now anything with the 998 may just be eliminated............................JMHO.....Mik e

[Jeriatric]

CORRECTION .......................................... "Leaners" .................... to be politically correct should now be referred to as ......................... "Tip Overs"


Cruzr Joe

But I was trying to be polite!
After all; that IS what happens when they lean too far!

If, you're refering to my recent lay down?

Was a good thing I was on two and it could "tip over" because there was no room left for anything else -zero-zip-nada. Had it been the spyder, it would have been much worse for both the spyder and me. In fact, that was one of the first things I remarked to my riding partner. "Glad I wasn't on the spyder". Damage to the FJR came to over 6K. The spyder would have been totaled.

[Bob Denman]

Actually; we weren't!
But; we ARE glad that you survived the episode in pretty decent shape!

[Jeriatric]

Actually; we weren't!
But; we ARE glad that you survived the episode in pretty decent shape!

Like they say. If ya can't keep up take notes. Now, where's that pencil?

[kep-up]

My tossing of my ST1300 down the mountainside in WV was appraised at nearly $6000.00. The insurance company considered it a total loss.

[Jeriatric]

My tossing of my ST1300 down the mountainside in WV was appraised at nearly $6000.00. The insurance company considered it a total loss.

Did you replace it?

[kep-up]

Aye, replaced it with a Spyder!

[JerryB]

Hi cuzn,

Re: can the the safety board stop them from selling them here in the states

I am no expert on this issue but I believe that they can. I also believe that they stop anyone who owns one from riding it any longer; sort of a 'grounding' as it is called in aviation.

10 yrs ago I owned a BMW. I read a fair number of articles on 'grey market' cars coming into this country; mostly BMW's. One guy in the local BMW club had one; he had bought it overseas ( it was a model not offered in this country ) and somehow had gotten it licensed & titled here in Oregon. He was constantly worried that, eventually the authorities would find out about it, and he would have to send it back or destroy it.

One article that I read told about a guy who brought a $300k Ferrari in and eventually watched it get shredded right in front of him.

Jerry Baumchen

[MidTNDawg]

Hi cuzn,

Re: can the the safety board stop them from selling them here in the states

I am no expert on this issue but I believe that they can. I also believe that they stop anyone who owns one from riding it any longer; sort of a 'grounding' as it is called in aviation.

10 yrs ago I owned a BMW. I read a fair number of articles on 'grey market' cars coming into this country; mostly BMW's. One guy in the local BMW club had one; he had bought it overseas ( it was a model not offered in this country ) and somehow had gotten it licensed & titled here in Oregon. He was constantly worried that, eventually the authorities would find out about it, and he would have to send it back or destroy it.

One article that I read told about a guy who brought a $300k Ferrari in and eventually watched it get shredded right in front of him.

Jerry Baumchen

Not only did the Feds stop them from manufacture, dealers were prohibited from selling used units. There may be some nits to be picked, but the bottom line was, 3- wheels were done in the ATV world.

[wyliec]

I don't think we are there yet:
http://www.smyrnavinings.com/blog/wp...is-falling.jpg

[Bob Denman]

Not only did the Feds stop them from manufacture, dealers were prohibited from selling used units. There may be some nits to be picked, but the bottom line was, 3- wheels were done in the ATV world.

There's a little bit more that this story...
The Feds came to an agreement with the manufacturers during this whole mess...
Which the manufacturers wanted anyway!
Honda controlled the patents that set the footpegs, seat, engine, and wheels in optimal locations...
This is why their ATCs were so good, the their competitions; weren't!
It pretty much leveled the playing field for the ATVs that followed...

[DrewNJ]

I don't think we are there yet:
http://www.smyrnavinings.com/blog/wp...is-falling.jpg

No kidding!
This place is full of doom and gloom! [emoji1]

[2dogs]

"One article that I read told about a guy who brought a $300k Ferrari in and eventually watched it get shredded right in front of him".

The 2nd amendment should have come into play here followed by the 4th,or maybe the other way around,,,,,,,,I'm just say'n.
How outrageous!

[JerryB]

Hi 2dogs,

Re: How outrageous!

Nothing outrageous about it. You cannot bring/drive a non-compliant vehicle into/in this country.

That's what 'grey market' cars are.

If you don't believe me, go buy a Asian or European version of a car and see if you can bring into this country.

Jerry Baumchen

[DrewNJ]

Cool! Now this thread has moved to talking about grey market cars!....[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji33] [emoji33]

[Bob Denman]

They're making MY poor brain appear to be under control...

[wyliec]

Cool! Now this thread has moved to talking about grey market cars!....[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji33] [emoji33]

Don't forget the hushed talk of a Spyder internment camp.

[Bob Denman]

Don't forget the hushed talk of a Spyder internment camp.

Really??
Do they offer live music and swimming?

Oh... it's NOT Summer Camp...

[WolfeeK9]

Came back home after 2 week vacation and opened garage door to strong fuel smell. Have not ridden in 3 weeks why would gas smell be so strong? Anyone had this strong smell this long after being non ridden? Gas cap is tight. Had to air out garage be still lingering smell.

[Bob Denman]

Could it be from the evaporative canister?