NHTSA investigation update

[Wazoo]

This "hobby" issue is a red herring. Owning a boat or a yacht or an airplane or a sportscar are also "hobbies" as they are not essential transportation. So what? It is irrelevant. These are expensive machines that operate in and out of traffic. The owners can expect the product to perform reasonably, i.e. to be able to safely and reliably perform their intended purpose. IMHO BRP has reached a crossroad. If they wish the Spyders to have a reputation of reliability BRP will incur the expense to make them all safe and reliable. If they want to be known as a manufacturer of dangerous and unreliable products they will continue to ignore the issues. Its just that simple.

[wis2013rtltd]

updates to report? I reread the posts because I thought there may actually have been an update reported....

[SpyderAnn01]

Well, I for one know of ONE sale that all this comedy has cost. My wife was all set to pull the trigger on an RT but has since backed off. I for one don't want her riding a vehicle that may or may not make it home. I had a '57 HD that was a pos and I don't need another. I also don't want my garage burned down, my house burned down, or anything else burned down. I do not want anyone in my family or anyone else hurt. I do not want a machine that spends more time at a dealer who may or may not have any idea what he is doing. I do not want to purchase a machine from a company who may not come out of this debacle. This is not "bashing" anyone or any company, but to release a machine like this on the public needs some answers. I feel for the guys that are having problems. If I paid what they get for these things and had the problems, I would be p.o.ed too. For some, riding is not just a "hobby" either. I am sure there have been many folks who have changed their minds about a purchase.

The 2014 will change your mind. 33,000 miles since February 21, 2014 and not one mechanical issue.

[SpyderAnn01]

updates to report? I reread the posts because I thought there may actually have been an update reported....

No, I think BRP has at least one more week before they have to turn everything in to NHTSA. If you read the letter from them to BRP it will be a mountain of paper (if printed) for the agency to wade through.

[DrewNJ]

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[Dragonrider]

I see that aircraft made the list. The Spyder costs an average of $400/year (sans fuel) for maintenance (3 Spyders and 50K miles), while my airplane will cost me an average of $22K per year, even if I only put 100 hours on it. I don't consider flying a "hobby", since I use it for business, can write it off my taxes, and can avoid all the hassles of commercial flying, and get there as fast (or faster) as commercial airlines.

My Spyder is a hobby.

[Yazz]

Not a hobby? What is it then? Are you paid to ride a spyder? Or are you required to ride a spyder?

Guess you didn't read the the quote I was replying to. Maybe you would have figured out why I wrote what I did.

[DrewNJ]

Guess you didn't read the the quote I was replying to. Maybe you would have figured out why I wrote what I did.

Still didn't answer my questions....but please, don't bother...it doesn't matter. Thanks.

[RBS66]

This thread has really gone off topic .. The title is NHTSA investigation update.. Please stay on topic so we can see any updates or new info. Thanks

[MikeT]

RBS66,
Thanks for saying what everyone was thinking.
Mike

[Bob Denman]

I think that everybody is just killing some time, while waiting for whatever is going to happen next...

[cuznjohn]

seriously people, what do you think the outcome will be, reverse fans?, new motors?, powder coating everything that gets hot?, a buy back program towards a new bike?, we don't know what it could be until you hear what decision they make. so why beat a dead horse and just wait and see

[Bob Denman]

Anyway, this horse isn't going to get any more tender!

[PMK]

seriously people, what do you think the outcome will be, reverse fans?, new motors?, powder coating everything that gets hot?, a buy back program towards a new bike?, we don't know what it could be until you hear what decision they make. so why beat a dead horse and just wait and see

Hope to see it resolved to everyones satisfaction. My guess is they do nothing more than revised tuning to the ecu via a software update. Maybe a couple heatshields that stick on and a caution decal that if fuel smell is noticed to stop riding immediately and have the dealer work on it.

As for hobby, agree it is for most, and no doubt some use the Spyder as a daily driver.

PK

[DrewNJ]

seriously people, what do you think the outcome will be, reverse fans?, new motors?, powder coating everything that gets hot?, a buy back program towards a new bike?, we don't know what it could be until you hear what decision they make. so why beat a dead horse and just wait and see

Riding spyders and beating horses....kinda what goes on around here....

[Bob Denman]

This thread has really gone off topic .. The title is NHTSA investigation update.. Please stay on topic so we can see any updates or new info. Thanks

[finless]

Just an FYI. There appears to be another burned up RT. A blue 2010 RTS SM5.
Recently this Ebay seller is selling parts from the burned Spyder.
What is interesting is this one doesnt look like it burned completely. Some parts like the radio he is selling are untouched.

http://stores.ebay.com/R-B-Cycle-Sal...&_sid=88443902

Bob

[Bob Denman]

But; without knowing the source of the fire...
More information is needed, in order for this one to count for much.

[jcthorne]

Deadline for BRPs response to NHTSA is tomorrow. Have the truckloads of paper left CA yet?

Will be interesting to see if they actually respond to the demand letter.

[Bob Denman]

Time will tell...
Tick... Tick... Tick...

[finless]

But; without knowing the source of the fire...
More information is needed, in order for this one to count for much.

True but NHTSA can contact the seller, get the VIN, and contact the owner as to what happened.

Bob

[cuznjohn]

i hate to ask this question to go further off the subject, BUT what do you think BRP will do if they can't find a fix, i asked a couple of members last night in PM'S about maybe they might stop selling spyders in the states, so what do you think. lets face it, it will cost them a arm and a leg to do any fix other than a software change. just a thought so please don't attack me for thinking like this

[DJFaninTN]

i hate to ask this question to go further off the subject, BUT what do you think BRP will do if they can't find a fix, i asked a couple of members last night in PM'S about maybe they might stop selling spyders in the states, so what do you think. lets face it, it will cost them a arm and a leg to do any fix other than a software change. just a thought so please don't attack me for thinking like this

there are other changes that won't cost them an arm and a leg. yes it may cost them money but they do have some deep pockets so I highly doubt they would quit selling here in the USA

[Bob Denman]

it's pretty unlikely that they'd quit their largest market for them...

[cuznjohn]

i didn't know the stated was their largest market, i figured canada would be