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    Going back to my original question, very little response on European countries but a full overview on the USA.
    Does surprise me though that only 20 states have it by law for all drivers, think in Europe for motorcycles it is simply mandatory everywhere. In some countries also clothing has been specified.
    Having read all your comments, I can only say that I do not understand why in some countries in Europe an exception is made for trikes, in some countries in combination with a safety belt. The latter absolutely making no sense at all. So in principle we have no argument on that. I am just the "idiot" that really likes to ride without. For all that never tried it, find a private area and try it out. At least you understand what brings us "idiots" to go for this style.
    In the end it is everybody's own choice. Discussing about insurances and all does not hold, that can be managed within the rules of the premium to be paid. Fact that this does not happen, is a clear statement. Nobody get on its bike/trike to get hurt. Apart from some daredevil accidents, most of the time we are hit by morons on 4 (or more) wheels who do not pay attention. They should pay a higher premium for causing more accidents?
    So let's leave it up to society and most importantly to the individual to manage the choices.
    Now back to the first line of this message, here is the current list
    Europe
    Holland No Helmet but safety belt
    Germany No Helmet but safety belt
    Belgium Always helmet
    UK No Helmet


    USA
    Alabama All riders
    Alaska 17 and younger
    Arizona 17 and younger
    Arkansas 20 and younger
    California All riders
    Colorado 17 and younger riders and passengers
    Connecticut 17 and younger
    Delaware 18 and younger
    Columbia All riders
    Florida 20 and younger
    Georgia All riders
    Hawaii 17 and younger
    Idaho 17 and younger
    Illinois No law
    Indiana 17 and younger
    Iowa No law
    Kansas 17 and younger
    Kentucky 20 and younger
    Louisiana All riders
    Maine 17 and younger
    Maryland All riders
    Massachusetts All riders
    Michigan 20 and younger
    Minnesota 17 and younger
    Mississippi All riders
    Missouri All riders
    Montana 17 and younger
    Nebraska All riders
    Nevada All riders
    New Hampshire No law
    New Jersey All riders
    New Mexico 17 and younger
    New York All riders
    North Carolina All riders
    North Dakota 17 and younger
    Ohio 17 and younger
    Oklahoma 17 and younger
    Oregon All riders
    Pennsylvania 20 and younger
    Rhode Island 20 and younger
    South Carolina 20 and younger
    South Dakota 17 and younger
    Tennessee All riders
    Texas 20 and younger
    Utah 17 and younger
    Vermont All riders
    Virginia All riders
    Washington All riders
    West Virginia All riders
    Wisconsin 17 and younger
    Wyoming 17 and younger
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    i believe in the u.s. the reason some states don't require a helmet is their residents are more thick headed.
    perhaps i am wrong & they are just stupid.

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    But the flaw in your theory: New York DOES require helmets...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    But the flaw in your theory: New York DOES require helmets...
    we are pigheaded

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    I've SEEN one of them...
    Give me a little time, and I can show you "PiG-Headed"!
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    Ok I'm going to try and give CasN a little bit more info on UK and NZ legislation when it comes to trikes but I must admit my knowledge is a bit rusty on this so others may correct me:

    UK

    In the UK you could register trikes as car or bike based. Trikes below 450kg can be registered as either but are normally registered as bike based trikes. Trikes over 450kg have to be registered as car based trike. Car ones must have a reverse gear, so if it's under 450kg and has no reverse then it has to be registered as a bike based trike.

    In both cases you don't have to have to wear a helmet. However if it's over 450kg (i.e. car based) then it must be fitted with 3 point seatbelts.

    Because of the last bit about seatbelts my guess is you'd have to register a Spyder as a bike based trike even though it's got a reverse gear.

    Obviously the way the trike is registered affects the type of licence you need to ride it and even things like type of insurance, WOF (Warrant Of Fitness or MOT as it's called in the UK) etc.

    New Zealand
    In New Zealand all Spyders are registered as cars. You do have to wear a crash helmet but fortunately don't need a seatbelt. This is to do with the compliance document drawn up to allow Spyders on NZ roads. Apparently there was quite process to get this compliance without stupid rules like 'must have seatbelts because its registered as car'. Strangely though its registered as a car, and you need a car WOF, you have to get motorbike insurance for it and the insurance company will hit you for a bigger excess if you don't have a motorcycle licence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN View Post
    i believe in the u.s. the reason some states don't require a helmet is their residents are more thick headed.
    perhaps i am wrong & they are just stupid.
    Not more thick headed....more rubber headed.

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