California Spec Spyders

[oldguyinTX]

Does anyone out there know how to tell if a particular Spyder is a California Model? (More stringent emissions requirements) Is it part of the VIN? Or is there another way to tell? Thanks in advance for any help.

[Bob Denman]

Isn't there a sticker under the seat?
I was under the impression, that they are all 50-State compliant...

EDIT: there's a couple of stickers under there...
But I can't read them!!

[Jeriatric]

They all meet Ca. Emission spec.

[Dan_Ashley]

They are NOT all California compliant. This was discussed in another thread about 3 months ago. If the sticker does not specifically say it is California or 50 state compliant it is not. If it has less than 7,500 miles on it, and is not California compliant you will not be able to register it in California. Ever. When you go to register it in California you must remove the tuberware so the DMV clerk can check the VIN number on the frame AND on the engine. ...this is The People's Rebublik of Califoreignia you know!

[Bob Denman]

Dan,
I think that you sound ready to move further inland...
Not, that it's a whole lot better!

New York and California (I believe), use the same emissions standards for their bikes...

[Jeriatric]

Thin they are NOT all California compliant. This was discussed in another thread about 3 months ago. If the sticker does not specifically say it is California or 50 state compliant it is not. If it has less than 7,500 miles on it, and is not California compliant you will not be able to register it in California. Ever. When you go to register it in California you must remove the tuberware so the DMV clerk can check the VIN number on the frame AND on the engine. ...this is The People's Rebublik of Califoreignia you know!

If the unit was first sold in the US it has the sticker.

[Dragonrider]

I was told by my dealer that all Spyders have the same engine choking scheme for emissions.... However, if it wasn't first sold in CA, CA DMV incorrectly assumes you are trying to get around their testing and fees.

[Jeriatric]

[Dragonrider;875740]I was told by my dealer that all Spyders have the same engine choking scheme for emissions.... However, if it wasn't first sold in CA, CA DMV incorrectly assumes you are trying to get around their testing and fees.[/QUOTE]

Currently, no(motorcycle) smog testing is required. The Ca. DMV wants to see serial numbers to prevent 'HOT' bikes from being registered.

[ARtraveler]

Good information folks.

[oldguyinTX]

Thanks to all for your input. Bob, you are right in that NY has adopted the California Emissions code. IN fact, I think that all vehicles - cars especially - are "50 state compliant". Easier for manufacturers that way.

[Dan_Ashley]

Thanks to all for your input. Bob, you are right in that NY has adopted the California Emissions code. IN fact, I think that all vehicles - cars especially - are "50 state compliant". Easier for manufacturers that way.

only if it says so on the sticker. About 3 or 4 months ago, in a different thread, a poster reported on a conversation he had with BRP. BRP said, "Not all Roadsters are California emissions compliant." You better look at the sticker to make sure. California does not smog test motorcycles. But if they have less than 7,500 miles on them and the sticker does not specifically state that it is compliant, you cannot register it in California. It doesn't matter if the vehicle is identical in every respect with those sold new in California--it must have the sticker with the proper endorsement, otherwise it cannot be registered here.

If you are planning on registering a vehicle here--of any kind--and it has less than 7,500 miles on it you (the buyer) should go out of your way to physically inspect the sticker yourself.

This can be a very costly and irritating mistake if you buy any vehicle with the wrong sticker.