2012 RT LTD clicks but won't start

[JoeUpchurch]

Hi everybody,

I've read every post I can find on this subject, pulled every relay, pulled and checked every fuse, tightened every battery terminal, unit shows 12.8 at the battery and the frunk accessory 12 V plug as well as the brunk accessory 12 V plug, The dealer installed a new battery on 5/28/14. My dealer isn't open till Tuesday, anyone got any more suggestions? I suspect bad cell in the battery with less than 300 miles traveled however, no bulging on it. I have a 12V battery load tester and will try that tomorrow.

Appreciate any help - thanks,

Joe

[happyspyder2039]

Hi everybody,

I've read every post I can find on this subject, pulled every relay, pulled and checked every fuse, tightened every battery terminal, unit shows 12.8 at the battery and the frunk accessory 12 V plug as well as the brunk accessory 12 V plug, The dealer installed a new battery on 5/28/14. My dealer isn't open till Tuesday, anyone got any more suggestions? I suspect bad cell in the battery with less than 300 miles traveled however, no bulging on it. I have a 12V battery load tester and will try that tomorrow.

Appreciate any help - thanks,

Joe

kill switch? Left in gear?

[JoeUpchurch]

If it is the kill switch it would be broken - checked and double checked each try.

[JoeUpchurch]

Says in 1st gear but I can't get it out. Always cranked in first gear in the past.

[JoeUpchurch]

Only relay I didn't pull was the "rectifier" under the plastic - put the plastic back on without thinking.

[JoeUpchurch]

And, of course, hasn't thrown the first code - checked that before and after on and off and start failure.

[happyspyder2039]

And, of course, hasn't thrown the first code - checked that before and after on and off and start failure.

Foot or hand on brake then try to start

[Princeau99]

There was a guy in the last two weeks that had the same symptom (sounds like anyway) and it turned out to be his starter had locked up. Not something I would try to fix at home.

bummer dude!

[JoeUpchurch]

Foot or hand on brake then try to start

Thanks for the effort of reading and replying to my problem.

[JoeUpchurch]

I guess it's on to my dealer now - have no trailer - we'll see how well BEST PLUS works!, to be continued

[Bob Denman]

The only way that your bike could turn over while in first gear...

... if your foot was on the brake.
Give it another try...


"Says in 1st gear but I can't get it out. Always cranked in first gear in the past."

[Chupaca]

you can put it into "N" manually with a wrench. With no codes hard to tell much could be the gear position sensor or as the other member with the starter problem where the magnet came loose and he JB welded it back. Somewhat involved if no mechanically savy...sadly the old push start won't work on the se's let us know what they find...

[JoeUpchurch]

The only way that your bike could turn over while in first gear...

... if your foot was on the brake.
Give it another try...


"Says in 1st gear but I can't get it out. Always cranked in first gear in the past."

Had my foot on the brake every cranking attempot for 2 days

[JoeUpchurch]

you can put it into "N" manually with a wrench. With no codes hard to tell much could be the gear position sensor or as the other member with the starter problem where the magnet came loose and he JB welded it back. Somewhat involved if no mechanically savy...sadly the old push start won't work on the se's let us know what they find...

sure will, thanks for your interest!

[Bob Denman]

Had my foot on the brake every cranking attempot for 2 days

Sorry... I had to ask about it.

My guess now, is that your battery isn't as good as you think it is...
Can you have it load tested?

[billybovine]

Sorry... I had to ask about it.

My guess now, is that your battery isn't as good as you think it is...
Can you have it load tested?

The OP load tested the battery and tested fine. So that eliminates the battery as the cause. When he pushes the starter button there is a click. That eliminates the kill switch being in the off position and not having his foot on the brake pedal. With either of those issues there should only be silence. So manually putting it into neutral would be a waste of time. He has checked all the connections so that leaves the starter or a connection he missed.

[Bob Denman]

I suggested a load test, because I've heard some folks in here talk about the batteries testing pretty decent without a load...

...But make them work, and a bad cell, has been known to make an appearance...

[billybovine]

I suggested a load test, because I've heard some folks in here talk about the batteries testing pretty decent without a load...

...But make them work, and a bad cell, has been known to make an appearance...

But he said he owns his own load tester in the first post and said it tested good in another.

[Bob Denman]

I guess because I didn't see a reference to the results of the test; I was wondering if he had done it yet...

[JoeUpchurch]

I guess because I didn't see a reference to the results of the test; I was wondering if he had done it yet...

Sorry, for specifics the load test showed capability better than 400 CCA - with battery listed at about 350 CCA, I call that "passing the load test".

[Schnauzer]

Our was clicking just like you reffer, it would after a few tries finally start. We were told that we were not holding it correctly... this went on for about a year.. At Spyderfest this year, BRP rep told me the same thing.. He would look at it, when he tried to crank, lt just clicked.. "Naturally I hollered,, you ain't holding it right... they replaced a defective switch button.. stranger things have happened.. mileasge has nothing to do with it either.. our reverse actuator went out with 800 miles on it...

[JoeUpchurch]

Chris ( from my dealer) called this afternoon and informed me that my Spyder was fixed and that the problem was that the chassis ground had come undone. Can anyone tell me where the chassis ground is, how to check if it comes undone? Really perplexed.


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[billybovine]

Under the seat on the right side is the main one. Doubles as the negative jumper post.

[JoeUpchurch]

Billy, how could this be? The jumper post was a solid connection to the battery, the dealer mentioned that they should have caught it at the 4600 inspection - just makes no sense to me - I made sure that the thing was tight from the top. Help, please.


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[Bob Denman]

Joe,
Is your bike now starting normally for you?
If so...