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ntsb phone call today
so i just got off the phone with the NTSB, the guy asked me questions about my 13 rt and i told him i sold it for a big loss because of the heat problem, i also told him about the money and work i put into it to try to eliminate the heat. he asked me what did i replace it with and when i told him a 14 rt he told me he would like to stop by my house next Wednesday to see my 14 and take heat readings on the bike, he is also seeing other spyder riders on that day to see their bikes so he can compare the heat readings. so i just thought i would let you know they are working on it
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he also said he is going to see the instillation of the new side panels to see if that helps the problem
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When companies chose not to listen.
Originally Posted by akspyderman
It sounds like it is starting to get interesting. If they are talking to all the 2013 owners, it's probably time that BRP may be getting a little worried.
This could be a very expensive issue for BRP and their insurers.
If that turns out to be the case. It'll be no ones fault but their own. Not bashing BRP. Simply stating a fact.
'Choose'.....my error
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Originally Posted by Jerbear
If that turns out to be the case. It'll be no ones fault but their own. Not bashing BRP. Simply stating a fact.
'Choose'.....my error
My total opinion about the situation is well known. I am not a BRP advocate on this subject, and yes, I think they blew it on this situation.
I only hope that the line is not discontinued or the price does not go up to $40K or higher for those that still like the product.
Last edited by ARtraveler; 08-13-2014 at 02:09 PM.
Currently Owned: 2019 F3 Limited, 2020 F3 Limited: SOLD BOTH LIMITEDS in October of 2023.
Previously : 2008 GS-SM5 (silver), 2009 RS-SE5 (red), 2010 RT-S Premier Editon #474 (black) 2011 RT A&C SE5 (magnesium) 2014 RTS-SE6 (yellow)
MY FINAL TALLY: 7 Spyders, 15 years, 205,500 miles
IT HAS BEEN A LONG, WONDERFUL, AND FUN RIDE.
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Originally Posted by akspyderman
I only hope that the line is not discontinued or the price does not go up to $40K or higher for those that still like the product.
Wouldn't want to see it discontinued either. As far as price is concerened. BRP proved they can get it right with the sucess of their 2014 models. Doubt there's a need for big price increases based on what the 14's sold/sell for. In my opinion....their failure has been their lack of willingness to address pre 14 heat issues.
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Originally Posted by Jerbear
Wouldn't want to see it discontinued either. As far as price is concerened. BRP proved they can get it right with the sucess of their 2014 models. Doubt there's a need for big price increases based on what the 14's sold/sell for. In my opinion....their failure has been their lack of willingness to address pre 14 heat issues.
My mention of the possibility of $40K is based on the fact that if they have to pay out multi millions of dollars in a lawsuit or in reparations--that is going to eventually impact their costs for future insurance. Those kind of costs are usually passed on to the consumer. In this case, I really do hope that I am wrong.
Currently Owned: 2019 F3 Limited, 2020 F3 Limited: SOLD BOTH LIMITEDS in October of 2023.
Previously : 2008 GS-SM5 (silver), 2009 RS-SE5 (red), 2010 RT-S Premier Editon #474 (black) 2011 RT A&C SE5 (magnesium) 2014 RTS-SE6 (yellow)
MY FINAL TALLY: 7 Spyders, 15 years, 205,500 miles
IT HAS BEEN A LONG, WONDERFUL, AND FUN RIDE.
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Originally Posted by akspyderman
It sounds like it is starting to get interesting. If they are talking to all the 2013 owners, it's probably time that BRP may be getting a little worried.
This could be a very expensive issue for BRP and their insurers.
the price of spyders just went up!!
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what really ticks me off is all the money i spent trying to make the bike right for me and than the loss i took selling the bike because i wanted to ride a bike that i could ride w/o being cooked on it. and now they are looking into what is going on
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Originally Posted by cuznjohn
what really ticks me off is all the money i spent trying to make the bike right for me and than the loss i took selling the bike because i wanted to ride a bike that i could ride w/o being cooked on it. and now they are looking into what is going on
Tell them to head south while temps are still 90+ if they want to see what is happening. Mine is good below 85 after the mods I did not so much above it.
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Good to know..!!
the ball is in motion...hope they come up with an equitable solution...
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Originally Posted by Magdave
Tell them to head south while temps are still 90+ if they want to see what is happening. Mine is good below 85 after the mods I did not so much above it.
Yea, Send him to the deep south where it's was 97 today and the Humidity was 80%.
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............sure glad that I haven't had the bug to get a new
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Originally Posted by Magdave
Why would they be taking readings on the 2014 sounds like a waste of time. Plenty of 13's that need checked.
I think they are trying to compare the different years for the heat difference.
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TRUST
I DON'T KNOW WHO I WOULD TRUST LEAST: BRP or NTSB.......
our gov't hasn't shown a tremendous amount of trust-worthy-ness lately.....
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ntsb phone call today
Nice, I hope they do something please PM me when you have a minute....
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I'd love to know exactly where they test the heat and what method they use. I bought a infrared heat gun specifically to check the heat issues on my new 2012 RTS but I honestly have no idea if where I'm testing is useful or not. Since I've been having significant gas fume issues I've been focusing on the gas tank area but I wonder if there is more I should be testing.
Please let us know what they test and how.
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Originally Posted by Highwayman2013
I think they are trying to compare the different years for the heat difference.
i didn't mention that, he said he wants to compare and wants me to ride at least a 1/2 hr b4 he gets here so the bike is up to temp
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Originally Posted by cuznjohn
so i just got off the phone with the NTSB, the guy asked me questions about my 13 rt and i told him i sold it for a big loss because of the heat problem, i also told him about the money and work i put into it to try to eliminate the heat. he asked me what did i replace it with and when i told him a 14 rt he told me he would like to stop by my house next Wednesday to see my 14 and take heat readings on the bike, he is also seeing other spyder riders on that day to see their bikes so he can compare the heat readings. so i just thought i would let you know they are working on it
Can you tell him about the windshield arm breaking ?
If it ain't broke, don't break it.
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Please let us know what he finds, and quiz him about what he thinks!
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I Loved my 2010 RT and I Love my 2014 RT. I can only imagine how betrayed the 2013 owners must feel by BRP's response. It's a shame that BRP didn't "do the right thing" from the very beginning. I too hope that they don't discontinue production but I do hope BRP learns a hard lesson and makes amends to those that lost so much money, time and peace of mind.
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Originally Posted by mindman
I can only imagine how betrayed the 2013 owners must feel by BRP's response.
Sadly I don't think it's just 2013's that are the problem. My 2012 has serious gas fume and boiling gas issues.
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