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    I forgot to tell my story about relays. Before my big trip ( Parts 1,2,3 already posted) I was taking my niece out for a ride July 4th. We only rode about 10 miles, and when I returned to my house, I just throttled a little to get into the garage and the SE5 shuts down as if I hit the kill switch. I could not restart it.....

    Besides the panic I had, ( I'm no mechanic) it was tommorrow that I was going to start this 14 day trip, it's a Saturday July 4th holiday, so everything is closed, etc.... You can see I was getting twisted up inside.

    Well my bro-in-law and I started tearing off panels thinking its a loose wire. I opened the trunk and removed the fuse/relay cover and found one of the relays was a little loose, so I pulled it and plugged it back in, but no effect. Started pulling fuses... My wife was getting ready to blog on this site for immediate help.

    Well I had bought two extra relays and decided to start replacing originals. I did not have a circuit tester, so I could not tell which ones were good or bad. So my bro-in law decided that if I would leave the key on, and we would plug each one of the relays in with power to the board that we would hear each one click if it was good. ( All three clicked when we plugged them in)

    BUT FOR SOME REASON, AFTER ALL THREE OF THE ORIGINAL WERE TESTED THE ABOVE WAY, I DECIDED TO HIT THE START BUTTON. And guess what it started right up.

    Have had no problems since. But what a scare!!!!! We've driven the 3300 miles on the trip, and never a wink, however I did check those relay connections a few time, after some pretty rough roads we travelled.

    Question: why did the relay re-plugged after I found it loose not solve the problem, but when we re-plugged with power on and it clicked it started right up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by captainryder View Post
    Question: why did the relay re-plugged after I found it loose not solve the problem, but when we re-plugged with power on and it clicked it started right up?
    Hard telling. Could be multiple reasons for this to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krb1945 View Post
    Where is that 25 amp fuse you are referring to? I looked at the picture on this thead and I don't see it in that fuse box. Please point me in the right direction.
    25 amp is one of the maxi-fuses in the other box, under the seat.
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    Default my head was in the sand

    My Spyder finally blew a relay. Beautiful weather, itching for a spyder ride, waiting for it to warm up and I decided to check the hi beams; click, end of fun: the headlights went out, the messages started streaming; ABS FAULT, DPS FAULT, VSS FAULT, LIMP MODE. So I shop around for said relay; Advanced auto knows nothing, O'reilly Auto parts knows nothing, NAPA auto parts knows nothing, and the internet was not helping. Finally found cross reference at Delcity.com for Song Chuan and only 2.38 apiece, you just have to do 25.00 minimum order, so I get 11 of them.
    Now when I installed it, my headlights are back but I still get fault codes. Do I have to do a battery cable disconnect to reset the fault codes? I do hope it is that simple. Help me my Spyder family!
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    Default and another thing

    What is with the relays blowing? Are the electrical engineers at BRP rejects from the automobile industry? None of my automobiles has issues with fuses or relays blowing. Is BRP afraid to fire said incompetent electrical engineers or does part of the socialist country's doctrine mandate that employees cannot be fired? I know that is part of the problem in European socialist countries. I know Lamontster said BRP reads our forums, so I hope they read this. My Spyder just crossed 2000 miles by the way. And where do we get this 135.00 manual from; I want one. With all of the wonderful help we get from this site, we don't need one, I just want one. And I also called my dealer about the relay when I was looking for one here in Augusta, Ga; He has to order it also, didn't get the price though. You would think that a money maker like blown relays would fill the stock shelves. Love ya'll.

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    Not everyone has troubles with the relays or the fuses. I've got 23,000 miles without burning out a relay and my wife has over 25,000 miles on her Spyder with the original relays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamonster View Post
    If you change the relay and it works that was the problem.
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    Default Spare Relay?

    LaMonster,
    Why did you buy a spare relay?

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    Wanna sell a couple of yor spares...you guys got me worried

    Quote Originally Posted by spyder1969 View Post
    My Spyder finally blew a relay. Beautiful weather, itching for a spyder ride, waiting for it to warm up and I decided to check the hi beams; click, end of fun: the headlights went out, the messages started streaming; ABS FAULT, DPS FAULT, VSS FAULT, LIMP MODE. So I shop around for said relay; Advanced auto knows nothing, O'reilly Auto parts knows nothing, NAPA auto parts knows nothing, and the internet was not helping. Finally found cross reference at Delcity.com for Song Chuan and only 2.38 apiece, you just have to do 25.00 minimum order, so I get 11 of them.
    Now when I installed it, my headlights are back but I still get fault codes. Do I have to do a battery cable disconnect to reset the fault codes? I do hope it is that simple. Help me my Spyder family!
    Love ya'll!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyder508 View Post
    Wanna sell a couple of yor spares...you guys got me worried
    Depending on your RS model, you may want to have 1-2 relays with you.
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    Cool relays

    You can order these relays for less than $6.00 each from a company called digikey based in Thief River Falls Mn. They will ship to your house and you can order and pay for them on line. I had one go that caused the DPS to quit working as well as the digital readout on the dash. total cost $22.00 inxlusinf shipping and tax (to ont canada). One relay at dealer is $29.00 taxes in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spydee owner View Post
    You can order these relays for less than $6.00 each from a company called digikey based in Thief River Falls Mn. They will ship to your house and you can order and pay for them on line. I had one go that caused the DPS to quit working as well as the digital readout on the dash. total cost $22.00 inxlusinf shipping and tax (to ont canada). One relay at dealer is $29.00 taxes in.

    Just 60 miles northwest of Dirt Town, they make batteries and all sorts of stuff like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bone crusher View Post
    I've never looked for hen's teeth before...the beak is scary enough....don't even want to imagine those mean ole birds with teeth!
    I'm with you...what's up with these Hen's Teeth? Does it mean that Rooster Teeth are easy to come by?
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    Default Tyco Relay VJ28-95F24-S01

    If any of you Spyder owners need the Tyco Relay VJ28-95F24-S01. I have about 14,000 of them. $3.00 a piece. All are new. Tyco discontinued this relay in 2010, and I have all remaining stock. burntkyle@hotmail.com
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    I need to stop reading threads for entertainment, I now fear relay problems & think I need some spare relays (just in case), Anyone know what relays the 2011 RT-S SE5 needs? I'll get some just to have, but maybe the engineers switched to better ones in 2010-2011?
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    Default Good Deal on Relays

    Just received my order of relays from guy two threads above me(burntkyle@hotmail.com). Email from him said they were also available on EBay. Really good deal, so got some extras. You can not go wrong with $3 each. Ordered six with $5 for shipping for a total of $23. I could only get two Duralast ones for that price locally. Should have spares for a long time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Willie View Post
    Just received my order of relays from guy two threads above me(burntkyle@hotmail.com). Email from him said they were also available on EBay. Really good deal, so got some extras. You can not go wrong with $3 each. Ordered six with $5 for shipping for a total of $23. I could only get two Duralast ones for that price locally. Should have spares for a long time!
    Are these compatible for all Spyders? I have a 2011 RT-S SE5 & what is the part#
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    Default Relay number is VJ28-95F24-S01

    The part number on the OEM and replacement relay is in the title above. I do not know if it will work on the RT models. I wrote down the number from the relays in my 2008 SE5 Spyder since I did not see specifics in the operators guide. I did ask if he carried the 30A breaker for the Spyder, but he did not. You may want to contact him to see if he has what you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Willie View Post
    The part number on the OEM and replacement relay is in the title above. I do not know if it will work on the RT models. I wrote down the number from the relays in my 2008 SE5 Spyder since I did not see specifics in the operators guide. I did ask if he carried the 30A breaker for the Spyder, but he did not. You may want to contact him to see if he has what you need.
    I had emailed him prior to posting on here and he told me to ask on here because he did not know. I'll check and see if they match your numbers. Thanks.
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    Ok..my very first problem with my Spyder..Hoping to get some answers here. I just had the dealer install the HID light set that was on special here (Xenon)..When I picked it up from the dealer I started it normally and it accelerated up to 5,000-6,000 and kept climbing. I immediately shut it down and tried starting again and it started normally and I drove it home. The next morning I went to start the Spyder and it did the same thing, zoomed up to 5,000-7,000 again and I shut it down. After 10-20 attempts to start it again, it finally started normally and I headed for the dealer...had to stop for gas on the way and went to start it and same thing happended again, rev up to 7k, shut it off, tried to start it again normally...30-40 times maybe...got fed up and let it sit for about 15 minutes. It finally started and I got it to the dealer. When the dealer tried to start it it did the same thing, reved up to 7k, shut it down and tried starting again...This time it wouldn't start at all even after sitting for a while. I haven't noticed anybody else having a problem after installing the HIDS but I'm wondering if it could be the relays????? It's still at the dealership waiting to be checked out and they tell me I'm gonna have to pay for an hours labor to hook it up to BUDS and if something's wrong I'm gonna have to rely on the warranties and/or pay the labor rate to get it fixed...What's wrong with this picture?...I bring a Spyder that's running pefectly to have the HID installed by the dealer, it messes up and they want me to pay to troubleshoot thier problem...Any ideas/suggestions...Thanks...Larry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlebadwolf View Post
    Ok..my very first problem with my Spyder..Hoping to get some answers here. I just had the dealer install the HID light set that was on special here (Xenon)..When I picked it up from the dealer I started it normally and it accelerated up to 5,000-6,000 and kept climbing. I immediately shut it down and tried starting again and it started normally and I drove it home. The next morning I went to start the Spyder and it did the same thing, zoomed up to 5,000-7,000 again and I shut it down. After 10-20 attempts to start it again, it finally started normally and I headed for the dealer...had to stop for gas on the way and went to start it and same thing happended again, rev up to 7k, shut it off, tried to start it again normally...30-40 times maybe...got fed up and let it sit for about 15 minutes. It finally started and I got it to the dealer. When the dealer tried to start it it did the same thing, reved up to 7k, shut it down and tried starting again...This time it wouldn't start at all even after sitting for a while. I haven't noticed anybody else having a problem after installing the HIDS but I'm wondering if it could be the relays????? It's still at the dealership waiting to be checked out and they tell me I'm gonna have to pay for an hours labor to hook it up to BUDS and if something's wrong I'm gonna have to rely on the warranties and/or pay the labor rate to get it fixed...What's wrong with this picture?...I bring a Spyder that's running pefectly to have the HID installed by the dealer, it messes up and they want me to pay to troubleshoot thier problem...Any ideas/suggestions...Thanks...Larry
    Move your ballasts and check for stray grounds. I think the ballasts have to be isolated from the frame. All other grounds must be real good. If that doesn't do it, some of the experts here may be able to help further. You are getting EFI interference to your electronics from the fields given off by the ballasts, may have ground/switching issues, and may also have voltage related issues as the ballasts make their intial draw in combination with the high Spyder draw at startup.
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    Thanks Scotty...You da man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlebadwolf View Post
    Thanks Scotty...You da man
    I'm not da man unless it works. This is not my area of expertise, but I have seen a lot of ballast related issues onother equipment, and a few on HIDs. I hope you can solve it simply.
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    man this is something i am glad to know....... thank you.

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