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    From another Spyder owner:

    MasterPro Ignition part BWD REF: R3110 (SMP REF: RY-232) is exactly the same as the relay in our Spyder. This relay can be purchased at Murray’s. We compared the relay in the Spyder with the BWD: R3110. They are identical…including the schematic drawing, as well as the amperage at each terminal/prong.


    Rodger at NordRide in Mount Morris, MI says the OEM relay we got at Murray’s is good. He also said that BRP sells this part for about $10.00. Now whether this price is to the dealers or the consumer, I don’t know. With that said, Murray’s sells it for around $9.00.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rando View Post
    From another Spyder owner:

    MasterPro Ignition part BWD REF: R3110 (SMP REF: RY-232) is exactly the same as the relay in our Spyder. This relay can be purchased at Murray’s. We compared the relay in the Spyder with the BWD: R3110. They are identical…including the schematic drawing, as well as the amperage at each terminal/prong.


    Rodger at NordRide in Brighton, MI says the OEM relay we got at Murray’s is good. He also said that BRP sells this part for about $10.00. Now whether this price is to the dealers or the consumer, I don’t know. With that said, Murray’s sells it for around $9.00.
    Roger is our service manger for our spyders and he knows his stuff but NordRide is not in Brighton, it is in Mount Morris, just north of Flint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dltang View Post
    NordRide is not in Brighton, it is in Mount Morris.
    Oops! My mistake. I fixed my original post.

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    Default Replacement Relays

    I found equivalent relays from Song Chuan Relays

    Main: TYCO VF28-15F14-S01 is identical to Song Chuan 898H-1CH-C-R1-U03-12VDC

    Other three relays: TYCO VJ28-95F24-S01 is identical to Song Chuan 301-1C-C-R1-U01-12VDC

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    Order relays from Perry Performance (oem)...I ordered online...price is like 9.00 for the smaller relay and 30.00 for the bigger one...

    To avoid any problems, this is probably the way to go...
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    I notice that all the relays in my 2009 SE5 are the same, if I have to replace any I would prefer to do it with a stock one what is the part number so I can pick up a few from my dealer.



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    Quote Originally Posted by burg650 View Post
    I notice that all the relays in my 2009 SE5 are the same, if I have to replace any I would prefer to do it with a stock one what is the part number so I can pick up a few from my dealer.


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    Just curious... why would you want to replace a stock relay with apparent reliability problems with more of the same?

    I've several of the Duralasts now for more than a year with no further problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataDude View Post
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    Just curious... why would you want to replace a stock relay with apparent reliability problems with more of the same?

    I've several of the Duralasts now for more than a year with no further problems.

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    Who's to say the Duralast is any better? Where is it documented that the stock relays have reliability issues? Perhaps on a case-by-case basis there are problems, but I'm sure not all the relays in all the bikes are bad. If we all had Duralast, we might have all the same issues, or even worse.

    Think of all the mods we do to the bikes...some might not sit too well with the electrical system...

    Also consider the vibration issue, any faulty lines, etc...

    If a fuse or relay goes out over and over again, there is obviously a more serious problem...

    My relays are fine so far and I hope they stay that way...if not, it's nice to have a few extras, no matter which brand they are. Only time will tell if the electrical system is faulty in any way...these things shouldn't be blowing under normal conditions regardless of which brand name they have on them...chances are that they're all made in the same factory anyway??
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    Quote Originally Posted by bone crusher View Post
    Who's to say the Duralast is any better? Where is it documented that the stock relays have reliability issues? Perhaps on a case-by-case basis there are problems, but I'm sure not all the relays in all the bikes are bad. If we all had Duralast, we might have all the same issues, or even worse.

    Think of all the mods we do to the bikes...some might not sit too well with the electrical system...

    Also consider the vibration issue, any faulty lines, etc...

    If a fuse or relay goes out over and over again, there is obviously a more serious problem...

    My relays are fine so far and I hope they stay that way...if not, it's nice to have a few extras, no matter which brand they are. Only time will tell if the electrical system is faulty in any way...these things shouldn't be blowing under normal conditions regardless of which brand name they have on them...chances are that they're all made in the same factory anyway??
    Then, by all means, run the ones you like. I'm out of this thread.


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    Still need the part numbers.

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    Default Consesus on which part number is best?

    I also have an 09 roadster and I am wondering what the consensus is on the best part numbers to use for the spare relays. As of this date I've had no problems but I only have a few hundred miles on it. But my moto is "be prepared" especially if you are aware of a known failure item.

    There are some real thinkers working the post on this thread and I know I appreciate the "heads up" information that is being posted.

    Super information guys!
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    Quote Originally Posted by krb1945 View Post
    I also have an 09 roadster and I am wondering what the consensus is on the best part numbers to use for the spare relays. As of this date I've had no problems but I only have a few hundred miles on it. But my moto is "be prepared" especially if you are aware of a known failure item.

    There are some real thinkers working the post on this thread and I know I appreciate the "heads up" information that is being posted.

    Super information guys!
    You can go to Parry Performance online and order the OEM parts for the same price as you can get after-market brands...no concern with getting anything wrong...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ataDude View Post
    Then, by all means, run the ones you like. I'm out of this thread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bone crusher View Post
    You can go to Parry Performance online and order the OEM parts for the same price as you can get after-market brands...no concern with getting anything wrong...
    I did go to the site you suggested and the Tyco numbers don't show up. What p/n's did you use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by krb1945 View Post
    I also have an 09 roadster and I am wondering what the consensus is on the best part numbers to use for the spare relays. As of this date I've had no problems but I only have a few hundred miles on it. But my moto is "be prepared" especially if you are aware of a known failure item.

    There are some real thinkers working the post on this thread and I know I appreciate the "heads up" information that is being posted.

    Super information guys!
    Look at the first post in this thread and you will find the Duralast part number from AutoZone. Not rated the same as the special production Tyco (at least one of them) but seems to have worked well for those that used them, and wil most certainly work as a spare to get you home. Otherwise, go to your dealer and order the relays (Tyco) from them. Get a 25 amp fuse while you're at it, since they are scarce as hen's teeth elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wyliec View Post
    I did go to the site you suggested and the Tyco numbers don't show up. What p/n's did you use?

    Product ID: 278002168
    Product Name: RELAIS *RELAY
    Quantity: 3
    Unit Price: $8.99
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    Product ID: 710000740
    Product Name: RELAIS *RELAY
    Quantity: 1
    Unit Price: $30.14
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    Quote Originally Posted by NancysToy View Post
    Look at the first post in this thread and you will find the Duralast part number from AutoZone. Not rated the same as the special production Tyco (at least one of them) but seems to have worked well for those that used them, and wil most certainly work as a spare to get you home. Otherwise, go to your dealer and order the relays (Tyco) from them. Get a 25 amp fuse while you're at it, since they are scarce as hen's teeth elsewhere.
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    Default Blowing fuses

    My blowing fuse's problem was fixed when I noticed three of the four relays on my '09 spyder had worked themselves loose. after reseating them...No more blown fuses. Got a spare from O'Rellies Atuo Part. They had two types, one (store Brand $8.00 1 year warranty) or another brand ,($18.00 3 year warranty) both exactly the same. so always ask for the store brand.

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    bone crusher, so which one is the relay for the my 09 se5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bone crusher View Post
    Product ID: 278002168
    Product Name: RELAIS *RELAY
    Quantity: 3
    Unit Price: $8.99
    Quote Originally Posted by burg650 View Post
    bone crusher, so which one is the relay for the my 09 se5.
    The SE5 uses 4 of these relays. The SM5 uses 3 of them plus one of the other one that he listed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjt View Post
    The SE5 uses 4 of these relays. The SM5 uses 3 of them plus one of the other one that he listed.
    Thanks for getting that for me...beat me to the punch...I'm still fixated on Scotty's hens with teeth...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bone crusher View Post
    Thanks for getting that for me...beat me to the punch...I'm still fixated on Scotty's hens with teeth...
    I told you they were scarce!
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    Where is that 25 amp fuse you are referring to? I looked at the picture on this thead and I don't see it in that fuse box. Please point me in the right direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blinc View Post
    Autoparts store is the way to go for sure!
    I forgot I had ordered this relay from the dealership and while I was there this morning getting my exhaust problem fixed, they advised me the part was in. Cost oh, only $42 and some change!!
    Told them to re-stock it, I would even pay the restock fee as I thought that was a tad bit outrageous on pricing.
    What did you order?
    I ordered from the dealer here in SO CA and paid 9.99 for each relay

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    Default Just checked both SM5 and SE5 and...

    09 SE5 has only 400 miles on it and all four relays were lose with No.2 main lose to the point of leaning forward about to totally disconnect.

    08 SM5 has 2200 miles and all four relays were lose but not as bad as the SE5.

    I installed a piece of foam in each cover to hold them in place. Cover is a little tight to install but the relays won't work lose again. If they do I'll fabricate a metal spring clamp to hold them firm.

    I would suspect that if they are lose and arching and a sparking... well that might just be what is making them fail.

    Just a thought.
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