Another Reported Fire

[finless]

I saw this on the Can-AM Spyder Facebook site today.

It was a 2013 from what I could tell by the poster. This is what was posted word for word with spelling and all caps. I basically copied and pasted it.

Thought I would share as the person is saying GET YOUR RECALL DONE!

Bob


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Im sorry for that.... BUT PLEASE BEWARE OF YOUR RECALL MINE WENT UP IN FLAMES LAST SUNDAY AT THE VALERO GAS STATION AFTER I PULLED UP TO THE PUMP RELEASED MY SEAT REMOVED MY GAS CAP AND 5 FOOT FLAMES SHOT UP AND OVER ME..... (I GOT 3RD DEGREE BURN TRYING TO PUT OUT THE FLAMES COULDN'T DO IT!.
GALAXY PUMPS EMERGENCY BUTTON WAS SHUT OF I WAS WITH 200 OTHER BIKES AT PUMPS WAITING TO GAS UP IT COULD HAVE HAVE BEEN A TRAGIC MOMENT. THANKS TO A FIRE FIGHTER IN OUR GROUP RATHER IN AND GOT THE FIRE EXTINGUISHER........SAVED MY LIFE ......
BRP RECALLS OVER 5,000 BIKES DUE TO FAULTY VENT HOSE CAUSING IT TO MELT & CATCH FIRE...
READ UP ON (CAN AM.COM) FIRES....
I LOVE MY BIKE EVEN HAD A $4,000 custom paint job on it.

[Chupaca]

Is he saying he did not do the updates and recalls..?? Was a near dissaster glad they had good fast responders in the situation. Hope he was not burned badly. Also saw one with a 2009 catching fire while ryding with his girlfriend. He did say he just got it back together before the ryde so not clear what happened.

[spydaman60]

wow! that really suxs! like to know the whole story.

[Jeriatric]

another one burns.

Is the owner a SL member and if not does anyone here have first hand knowledge of the incident?

[ARtraveler]

Wow! More details as the story develops?

[Bob Denman]

I'm pretty sure that if they were in here; we'd have seen this report already...
I'd like to know a bit more of the details about it.

[finless]

I will keep you all informed as more info comes out from that one.
So far nothing new has been posted.

Bob

[Tx web rider]

I was waiting on the light to enter the gas station on my spyder when her bike caught fire

by the time I got in the lot it was out minimal damage due to a fast firefighter in the group with a dry chem extinguisher

like was said when she pulled off the road up to the pump lifted the seat and opened the cap (yes it was the new type) and the fumes escaped and went up from a small internal flame that sparked up (no idea where it started )

this was a 2012 with 16k miles just got back 3 weeks prior from the dealer doing 15k checkup and oil and tire change

the bike did over heat the weekend prior in stop and go traffic to the extent it shut down

not sure if this caused the issue when it caught fire but its sitting in the dealers lot now

if there is more info ill post also but at this time nothing

[Bob Denman]

Thanks!

[Bob Denman]

This bike already had the new cap...
Although I'm not sure if they have referenced the new ECM programming, or the heat barrier endeavors...

[bruiser]

Was it a 2013 or 2012? Two different year models listed. Sounds like the fuel vapors released from the tank were ignited (?). By what? Good thing someone was able to react. Hope she is healing well.

[Bob Denman]

what open flame could have been present?

[Spiderwoman]

This bike already had the new cap...
Although I'm not sure if they have referenced the new ECM programming, or the heat barrier endeavors...

Question... It was my understanding the ECM Programming was not available for the 2012 models.

[Bob Denman]

You're 100% correct...
the entire Fire thing, had me thinking 2013...

[900Dave]

This has been an issue from the beginning. Other than the 13's that have burned I have now read about a 2009 & now a 2012. I also thought the boiling gas was directly related to the 13's and I find out this week it has also been an issue with previous years.

[crazyspyder]

I have a bad feeling my 2012 is next to flame out, dealer or BRP don't give a ratz **z about my heat, strong gas smell, or drips.

[jwulf74]

A good idea to keep full coverage on these things...


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[flamingobabe]

This is scary...do you have a plan if your bike catches fire...I do

[pellcitypete]

This is scary...do you have a plan if your bike catches fire...I do

RUN LIKE And then decide what to do next

[3 Wheel Addict]

There will be more cases like this, overheated fuel tanks and melting parts and some of us have serious fuel leaks now.

[Jeriatric]

ThIs is scary...do you have a plan if your bike catches fire...I do

And it is appropriately named ☆The Ann Plan☆

Download anything you can....if you can?

Then, take a spot with the rest of the spectators.

[pellcitypete]

And it is appropriately named ☆The Ann Plan☆

Download anything you can....if you can?

Then, take a spot with the rest of the spectators.

I had problem with heat boiling gas ect.... when out of warranty Fixed it Myself

[bruiser]

I believe this was covered extensively in a previous thread. Remembering my firefighter training and physics class, and for refresher, gasoline has a flash point of -45F. Flashpoint is defined as a temperature above which the liquid produces vapors which can ignite or explode. This may happen without a spark or flame. Ignition temperature also applies to a hot surface (exhaust pipe) that will cause vapors to ignite.

Now, bearing in mine that gasoline has a vapor density heavier than air, it will sink and spread out. Vapors are what ignite when gasoline is poured out, such as putting gas on a pile of wood (dumb to start with). That is what causes the "whoosh" sound, the flame front traveling through the vapors. In training, we would drop a match in a container of gasoline and the match would go out without causing a fire.

Gasoline heated to the boiling point of between 100F-400F the vapors can be somewhat lighter. If the fuel tank is heated (we know what that is), it becomes pressurized. When the cap is removed, the pressurized vapors are forced out and up. Ignited, this is the "jet" effect you see.

Since there was an issue with brake cylinders I'll mention that most brake fluids have a flashpoint of 275F. So you can see that brake fluid on a hot exhaust pipe can ignite.

[Tx web rider]

the bike was a 2012 not a 2013

and if was mine my contingent plan is open fronk if can be done safely remove anything I might want to save if I have time pop the givi bags off to save the items there

and let it turn to a puddle of molten metal and plastic

call the fire department at some point


then call for a ride

[cyclelover63]

I

this was a 2012 with 16k miles just got back 3 weeks prior from the dealer doing 15k checkup and oil and tire change

the bike did over heat the weekend prior in stop and go traffic to the extent it shut down

not sure if this caused the issue when it caught fire but its sitting in the dealers lot now

if there is more info ill post also but at this time nothing

This says it was a 2012...wouldn't have had the heat recalls done.

If the vapors sink and hit hot elements,maybe the fuel door in the seat would be a better idea..Also could this have been static electricity?