Heat issue

[billrob71]

I spoke to a dealer on the phone and they say cat removal fixes the heat problem. Does anyone have any real world experience to support or refute this claim?

It makes perfect sense , the converters are heat traps on cars the converters on our bikes are no different if anything they are more restrictive the way they are configured under the case.

Gonna be my first mod as long as I can find a fuel controller , richening them up will cut down the fuel economy but helps with performance , heat and should make it run smoother.

[frenchek]

Both of our RTs have the air box removed.Removing the Cat is problematic in that it cannot be easily put back if need be.I think the benefits of removing the air box and the decreased under hood temperatures are many.One that I of course can’t prove, but suspect is throttle body life.Do I worry about running leaner?Nope.That’s what the fuel map is for.

rodger, when you said "that's what the fuel map is for" are you referring to the stock fuel map or an added on type ?

[WashingtonApple]

I've been thinking about getting some heat shielding for my gas tank on my new 2013 ST I got a couple weeks ago. I have not experienced gas boiling or anything other than an occasional little bit of gas odor at stop lights. But it sounded like a good idea anyway. So today I had to pull off enough tupperware to actually see the tank since I am installing some fox adjustable shocks. I was pleasantly surprised to find that the tank already has heat shielding on it. I dont know if this is something that was done at the factory or part of the service the dealer did before giving me the keys (the service manager only mentioned something about wrapping the master cylinder). Do all ST's have this and they boil anyway or is this something new?


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[Bob Denman]

Craniac has been tinkering around with moving the evaporative canister on his bike...
You might want to either check out his posts, or PM him!

[JacqueTanis]

I've been thinking about getting some heat shielding for my gas tank on my new 2013 ST I got a couple weeks ago. I have not experienced gas boiling or anything other than an occasional little bit of gas odor at stop lights. But it sounded like a good idea anyway. So today I had to pull off enough tupperware to actually see the tank since I am installing some fox adjustable shocks. I was pleasantly surprised to find that the tank already has heat shielding on it. I dont know if this is something that was done at the factory or part of the service the dealer did before giving me the keys (the service manager only mentioned something about wrapping the master cylinder). Do all ST's have this and they boil anyway or is this something new?


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My ST has the heat shielding from BRP, I'm pretty sure they all do - I added more to the top and sides (as far as I could reach).

[JacqueTanis]

We installed an anti sway bar and left the bottom panels off, I rode up to Bensalem Saturday. It was about 50 degrees. The heat didn't go above 2 bars. I hoping that helps because the bike ran really hot last summer.

My engine never goes above 5 bars ... the engine is not overheating. It's the heat being trapped in the engine compartment that is causing the problem.

[flamingobabe]

the 2013 ST does not come with heat shielding on the tank.....either your dealer or BRP did that....my gas boils with 1/4 inch ceramic installation/heat shielding...but with the new mapping of the ecm things are better....thank your dealer

[Sarge707]

Both of our RTs have the air box removed.

Removing the Cat is problematic in that it cannot be easily put back if need be.

I think the benefits of removing the air box and the decreased under hood temperatures are many.
One that I of course can’t prove, but suspect is throttle body life.

Do I worry about running leaner?
Nope.
That’s what the fuel map is for.

I,m thinking of removing the air box on the RT so I can do my own Plugs and wires BUT I,m concerned the Decibel increase would be significant and I value my hearing. Wonder if anyone ever did a test?

[900Dave]

I,m thinking of removing the air box on the RT so I can do my own Plugs and wires BUT I,m concerned the Decibel increase would be significant and I value my hearing. Wonder if anyone ever did a test?

See post #37 & #38 they should be able to answer your question.

[Jeriatric]

I,m thinking of removing the air box on the RT so I can do my own Plugs and wires BUT I,m concerned the Decibel increase would be significant and I value my hearing. Wonder if anyone ever did a test?

Honestly. My first throttle up - I thought to myself. Wow! That's loud. But soon learned it took far less throttle input than my wrist was used to(with the stock air box) Less twist equals less noise.

Did 325 plus yesterday from here to Angeles Crest Highway(both twisties and freeway). It gets a little noisy under heavy throttle, but I came to like it. Hardly notice it at freeway speeds on cruise control. It's really not that bad, and I wouldn't change back if someone paid me.

Those with super sensitive ears can always screw in some ear plugs. jmy2c

[Bob Denman]

A little bit of "Intake Honk", is good for the soul...

[hotglue]

the 2013 ST does not come with heat shielding on the tank.....either your dealer or BRP did that....my gas boils with 1/4 inch ceramic installation/heat shielding...but with the new mapping of the ecm things are better....thank your dealer

The front of the tank did have heat shielding from the factory.... I added to it and covered more of the tank.

[Bob Denman]

Did you get the new bodywork in place?

[WashingtonApple]

Sounds like some ST's have some shielding and others don't. Glad I got one that did. Its not much but some is better than none. I put about 70 miles on her today and now I have 605 miles on the odometer, so she is ready for the break in service. Hopefully that helps even more with the firmware updates.

[Barbie]

Honestly. My first throttle up - I thought to myself. Wow! That's loud. But soon learned it took far less throttle input than my wrist was used to(with the stock air box) Less twist equals less noise.

Did 325 plus yesterday from here to Angeles Crest Highway(both twisties and freeway). It gets a little noisy under heavy throttle, but I came to like it. Hardly notice it at freeway speeds on cruise control. It's really not that bad, and I wouldn't change back if someone paid me.

Those with super sensitive ears can always screw in some ear plugs. jmy2c

I'm thinking about taking mine off. I have a friend who has an HD. The pipes and engine got so hot he couldn't hardly ride it. He took the CAT off and said it was like night and day difference. Was it hard to take off or did you have your dealer do it for you ?

[hotglue]

Did you get the new bodywork in place?

Nope.... got the 4 panels in.... one of the panels was painted wrong. Looks like it's the right color.. but... Dull, and rough... no clear coat on it. Trying to get it squared away... don't know if we will have it in time to put it on before we go to Spyderfest.

[Bob Denman]

I'm sorry to hear that what should have been simple... wasn't!
Hang in there!!

[Jeriatric]

I'm thinking about taking mine off. I have a friend who has an HD. The pipes and engine got so hot he couldn't hardly ride it. He took the CAT off and said it was like night and day difference. Was it hard to take off or did you have your dealer do it for you ?

Not taking it off. Like it.

[hotglue]

Nope.... got the 4 panels in.... one of the panels was painted wrong. Looks like it's the right color.. but... Dull, and rough... no clear coat on it. Trying to get it squared away... don't know if we will have it in time to put it on before we go to Spyderfest.

We have been hangin for over a year......

[Bob Denman]

We know...
My poorly trained gut, has me believing that you're just about to where, "The light at the end of the tunnel", is about to take on a new reality!

[hotglue]

I'm sure you mean where we should have been a year ago.... got the right side 2014 panels on today... do not think I will have the time to get the left side on if BRP shipped the right parts 'right now'.... so FB will just have to ride her spyder to Spyderfest the BRP way.... Half assed fixed...

[jeff92872]

Jegs has thermal plankets heat tape even wraps the cat up to 2000 degrees wrapped the fuel tank no more boiling fuel covered the inside of all the panels and no more heat problem working on a larger radiator idea now found one that will fits just need to have a few mods done to it before installing

[3rdwheel]

It makes perfect sense , the converters are heat traps on cars the converters on our bikes are no different if anything they are more restrictive the way they are configured under the case.

Gonna be my first mod as long as I can find a fuel controller , richening them up will cut down the fuel economy but helps with performance , heat and should make it run smoother.

I talked to my dealer today and was told that bypassing the cat would void the warranty.
This is BRPs problem let them make it right.

[spyder3]

I talked to my dealer today and was told that bypassing the cat would void the warranty.
This is BRPs problem let them make it right.

Seeing what others have been put through here so far, I would not hold your breath on BRP fixing this. We can hope they come through.

[3rdwheel]

Seeing what others have been put through here so far, I would not hold your breath on BRP fixing this. We can hope they come through.

No I'm not holding my breath on BRP fixing this. But with all of the chatter about heat issues they have to take notice and address the problem. 22k tax tag and title, also a comfort seat that was a waste of $$$. I'm not really interested in spending more on this money pit.