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I need a little help...
I'm a brand new rider (three weeks and just got my license so I can ride alone) and I'm loving my new Spyder SE5. I have never had a motorcycle, so I was very excited when Can-Am came out with a bike I could ride while traveling with my husband. We have always traveled two up.
We live in Oregon where the only straight rode seems to be I-5. I'm loving riding on rodes that have sweeps and some curves, but my inexperience comes in big time when I get into tighter curves, some S curves, sharp corners, etc. I slow way down and go slowly through those curves. My question is what is the best way/techniques to go through all of those S curves and corners? Body position, speed, any good hints for me? I have to be honest enough to say I am 62 and do not have a big need for speed in corners, but I need some pointers.
Thanks!
Liz
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SpyderLovers Founder
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Help Con't....
Thanks, so far so good then. What's your body position? I looked into a safety class and they don't work with "trykes"
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SpyderLovers Founder
Originally Posted by YSWMN
Thanks, so far so good then. What's your body position?
That all depends on your speed. If you're doing the speed limit you can pretty much stay in the center of the Spyder. If you are going through fast you want to slide your body to the inside of the turn.
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Are you sure that you want to slide to the outside of the corner? I ride a conventional trike and the quickest way around is to slide your body toward the inside of the corner. I've only had a short demo on the Spyder but found out quickly that sitting straight up wasn't working very well. With the slick seat I needed to lean or slide to the inside to be able to stay on it. Your thoughts please.
Dwight
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Registered Users
On the new Spyder, I hope you enjoy it.
The biggest adjustment I had from my other bikes was to turn the handle bars and trust it. It is a different feel than motorcycles, quads, and snowmobiles. It has a feel that is unique to the Spyder. Take it to a big empty parking lot and test it a bit, get a good feel for the g-forces you feel. They will become normal to you as you leard to trust what the Spyder will do. At the speed limits there is no question your Spyder will handle it. Of course there is the romp on it and hang on method but I would't avise that quite yet.
Hang on!
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I've been leaning in and toward the turn and that feels right. Thanks for the input. I've just not figured out what the bike will do and at what speed. Practice, practice, practice!
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Thank you for the advise. I'll head down to our mall early in the A.M. when no one is around and give it a try. I know it's a matter of trusting and knowing what the bike will do. Ah, time...
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Registered Users
Originally Posted by YSWMN
I've been leaning in and toward the turn and that feels right. Thanks for the input. I've just not figured out what the bike will do and at what speed. Practice, practice, practice!
Leaning in is correct. For example, if you're going through a left hand turn hard, you'll be leaning to the left - the direction you are going. 'Just like on a quad or snowmobile. If you lean outside, you're certainly more apt to cause a high side situation.
I think Lamont means that. But, maybe worded it differently?
- Greg
2013 RT-S Circuit Yellow Metallic
Previously owned...
2008 Spyder GS (Full Moon) 32,800 miles
2011 Spyder RS-S (Magnesium/Black) 31,230 miles
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SpyderLovers Founder
Originally Posted by Dwight
Are you sure that you want to slide to the outside of the corner? I ride a conventional trike and the quickest way around is to slide your body toward the inside of the corner. I've only had a short demo on the Spyder but found out quickly that sitting straight up wasn't working very well. With the slick seat I needed to lean or slide to the inside to be able to stay on it. Your thoughts please.
Dwight
You slide to the side that wants to lift.
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And the side that wants to lift is the inside.
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Don't have a lot of Spyder experience, hopefully mine will be here next week, but as a long time boss Hoss trike owner, I can tell you Lamont is right, On the Boss you can go in to a tight U-turn and bring the outside tire off the ground. therefore you want to slide to that side, the upper or outside. I understand the stability control want allow the Spyder to do this.
Wayne
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Motorbike Professor
The seat on the Spyder isn't very slippery, so you seem to need to actually pick yourself off the seat to move your buns to the inside of the turn. Bending at the waist, and leaning forward works quite well. Some also suggest pushing down hard on the footrest opposite the turn direction, ala skiiing, but I can't seem to get used to this. Find a quiet road with some gentle curves, practice shifting your weight to the inside of the curve, and in no time you will be keeping up. My wife was just as inexperienced, and tentative in the corners. Now when I look in my rearview mirrors she is always gaining on my motorcycle in the turns!
-Scotty
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Originally Posted by YSWMN
And the side that wants to lift is the inside.
You're right, it IS the inside tire which wants to lift....here's an excerpt from the owner's guide:
Sideways Forces in Turns Unlike a motorcycle, the Spyder roadster
does not lean in turns. You will
feel sideways forces pushing you to
the outside of the turn. To maintain
balance, the operator and passenger
must hold onwith both hands and keep
both feet firmly planted on the footpegs.
In hard turns, it may help to lean
your upper body forward and toward the inside of the turn.
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Registered Users
Originally Posted by spyryder
You're right, it IS the inside tire which wants to lift....here's an excerpt from the owner's guide:
Sideways Forces in Turns
Unlike a motorcycle, the Spyder roadster
does not lean in turns. You will
feel sideways forces pushing you to
the outside of the turn. To maintain
balance, the operator and passenger
must hold onwith both hands and keep
both feet firmly planted on the footpegs.
In hard turns, it may help to lean
your upper body forward and toward
the inside of the turn.
...as I (and most of us) have said. It's common sense, really.
- Greg
2013 RT-S Circuit Yellow Metallic
Previously owned...
2008 Spyder GS (Full Moon) 32,800 miles
2011 Spyder RS-S (Magnesium/Black) 31,230 miles
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I find that under 85mph all I have to do on a highway turn is just turn the wheel and slightly lean to the inside. On sharp mountain corners I lean a little forward and further in if the turn is like a 65 degree to 50 degree turn and the speed is over 55 mph. Under 55 on these sharp type corners the bike does really well for itself with just turning the wheel, you will find your body feeling like it wants to flip out but it won't let you go that far really.
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Registered Users
Here are a few photos that show the Spyder cornering at speed..
Last edited by Greg H.; 08-25-2008 at 06:51 PM.
- Greg
2013 RT-S Circuit Yellow Metallic
Previously owned...
2008 Spyder GS (Full Moon) 32,800 miles
2011 Spyder RS-S (Magnesium/Black) 31,230 miles
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SpyderLovers Founder
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Well...to everyone who has responded...Thank You! I guess it's just going to be alot of riding (oh gee) and learning to trust the bike. I really appreciate the support. I am having so much fun and it's only week three.
Liz
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Originally Posted by Lamonster
I stand corrected it's been a long weekend with very little sleep.
Ha! Nobody minded--after all, you DO keep posting that photo of you leaning into a turn!!
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Hi Karla,
Thank you so much for the information about the STEP program. I've checked the dates in September and I've got jury duty starting the week of the 15th for two weeks. I'm going to check to see if I can get out of a few days of it and go to Hood River. If I go I will let you know how it went.
I hope to see you on the road sometime. I will certainly say "hi" to Vernon for you.
Thanks again!
Liz
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Active Member
Here'a a trick Igot from my friend who also rides a Silver Spyder.
Grip hard with the inside hand on a turn and relax your outside hand. I was pushing with the outside hand and relaxing withthe inside. Try reversing this and then just lett he wheels take you through the turn. Does that make sense ?
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Yup, it sure does. I'll give it a try. Thanks!
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Registered Users
- Greg
2013 RT-S Circuit Yellow Metallic
Previously owned...
2008 Spyder GS (Full Moon) 32,800 miles
2011 Spyder RS-S (Magnesium/Black) 31,230 miles
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