Hesitation on hard right turns

[billrob71]

Good point on the ATV's, my first was around 1982 and rode to about 3 years ago (my body still feels it all lol).

Right there with ya bro getting to old for broken bone but still love jumping those 50 foot table tops

[SNOOPY]

Now I hurt more....

[DrewNJ]

Yeah, people like Bob and Joe can use the Valet Key and people like us can have the Performance Key.





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They already do....they ride RT's......

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[billrob71]

Now I hurt more....

Pain is only temperary.

[SNOOPY]

[billrob71]

They already do....they ride RT's......

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I'll be eating waiting on the RT'rs comments

[SNOOPY]

I'll be hiding....

[billrob71]

I'll be hiding....

[SNOOPY]

...still hiding.

[Bob Denman]

Yeah, people like Bob and Joe can use the Valet Key and people like us can have the Performance Key.





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People like us don't want to end up like... dart.jpg

[billrob71]

People like us don't want to end up like... dart.jpg

Isnt there suppose to be a shuffleboard picture

[Bob Denman]

Lawn Darts have more of a "lethal" look to them...

[billrob71]

Lawn Darts have more of a "lethal" look to them...

Yep just a pillow fight

[NancysToy]

Lawn Darts have more of a "lethal" look to them...

That is how the BRP prototype test riders described the Spyder without the VSS.

[DrewNJ]

That is how the BRP prototype test riders described the Spyder without the VSS.

Sorry but i totally disagree with their assessment. Ive ridden a spyder without VSS and considerably more power, and I can honestly say they are full of crap saying that....maybe if your a complete idiot with no common sense or have no coordination.
The VSS system is fantastic in the rain, similar to a car. However, not necessary on dry pavement and especially at low speeds for anyone with even average riding skills.

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[SNOOPY]

You all totally lost me on the lawn dart thing.

What is a lawn dart?

[NetJunkie]

Had the 2013-9 update done last week and today it was 80 degrees so I took the RS-S out and flogged it good. It really does seem to run better and have faster response.... But every time I took a hard right turn and saw the VSS light flash I thought of this thread... Might be time to shim. It's getting really annoying.

[SNOOPY]

Had the 2013-9 update done last week and today it was 80 degrees so I took the RS-S out and flogged it good. It really does seem to run better and have faster response.... But every time I took a hard right turn and saw the VSS light flash I thought of this thread... Might be time to shim. It's getting really annoying.

Hmm..what flashes? I'm busy not getting thrown from the defective bike to notice a light?

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[NancysToy]

Sorry but i totally disagree with their assessment. Ive ridden a spyder without VSS and considerably more power, and I can honestly say they are full of crap saying that....maybe if your a complete idiot with no common sense or have no coordination.
The VSS system is fantastic in the rain, similar to a car. However, not necessary on dry pavement and especially at low speeds for anyone with even average riding skills.

Unfortunately, in this litigation crazy world, a manufacturer has to cover his corporate behind. The technology doesn't exist to gauge a rider's skill or attention through the seat sensor, so they build for the average (or worse) rider under the most trying conditions. That probably goes triple for the Spyder, which often is marketed toward neophyte riders. We can lament the fact that we can't spin donuts, or we can learn to ride the Spyder within its capabilities and quirks, and wring everything possible out of it with our skill and perseverance. If I wanta go faster again I'll build another fuel bike or fuel dragster. My Spyder was not purchased to be a racer any more than it was purchased to be an off-road machine. JMHO

[NetJunkie]

Unfortunately, in this litigation crazy world, a manufacturer has to cover his corporate behind. The technology doesn't exist to gauge a rider's skill or attention through the seat sensor, so they build for the average (or worse) rider under the most trying conditions. That probably goes triple for the Spyder, which often is marketed toward neophyte riders. We can lament the fact that we can't spin donuts, or we can learn to ride the Spyder within its capabilities and quirks, and wring everything possible out of it with our skill and perseverance. If I wanta go faster again I'll build another fuel bike or fuel dragster. My Spyder was not purchased to be a racer any more than it was purchased to be an off-road machine. JMHO

Let's be honest. If half the sport bikes out there can be sold....they could sell a sport Spyder with a greatly reduced VSS. Or at least give us an option to shut it off like almost every other vehicle with stability/traction control.

[NetJunkie]

Hmm..what flashes? I'm busy not getting thrown from the defective bike to notice a light?

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Yeah. There is a VSS light on the right gauge pod. Flashy Flashy.

[NancysToy]

Let's be honest. If half the sport bikes out there can be sold....they could sell a sport Spyder with a greatly reduced VSS. Or at least give us an option to shut it off like almost every other vehicle with stability/traction control.

You won't get any argument from me on that score, but this was BRP's decision. Given their market demographic (and their large legal department), they chose what they felt best. It is what it is, and we can learn to live with it or buy 'Busas.

[NetJunkie]

You won't get any argument from me on that score, but this was BRP's decision. Given their market demographic (and their large legal department), they chose what they felt best. It is what it is, and we can learn to live with it or buy 'Busas.

Or we can push for change and/or find ways to make it work for us.

[DrewNJ]

And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying why they did or why they didn't do what they did. It's their company and they can make it as bozo proof as they deem necessary....as ridiculous as it may be for an experienced rider.
All I was saying is that their comments about it handling like a "lawn dart" are absolutely silly and 100% untrue.....that's all.
I've ridden many machines that pucker up the butt cheeks a LOT more than a spyder without VSS... And I'm not that good of a rider....

[billrob71]

Hmm..what flashes? I'm busy not getting thrown from the defective bike to notice a light?

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You won't see it during the day I've only seen mine at night , can't see it in the daylight but not really looking for it either