.....and I carry.

[Dan_Ashley]

Been around a while? My memory only goes back to the '60s...

That's better than my memory. Mine only goes back to breakfast...oh...wait.

[crazyspyder]

it's the nature of MAN- BTW Neanderthal invented the ole spark by accident while making music with two ole rocks ....who knew? the first crime came afterwards.....

[Bob Denman]

Been around a while? My memory only goes back to the '60s...

That's far enough...

[Cavman]

I plan to go to a range on Thursday at SpyderFest for some target practice.

[Bob Denman]

Cool!
What are you bringing along?

[Cavman]

The week before SpyderFest I will have just completed the 4 Day Defensive Handgun Course at Front Sight in Pahrump, NV. So Bob, I would have some Glocks with me. There is a range at the Lead Mine State Forest NNE of Springfield. 'Threefeet' and I shot at another range last year at SF.
Anyone an join me.

I'm just hoping I have a Spyder to ride at SpyderFest?

[Bob Denman]

I like Glocks; They just don't fit my hand well... I can't shoot them worth a spit!
Now my Missus; she had a Glock 19 with the night sights on it...
We were invited to a Police Combat shoot... (B-27 targets at 12 yards and beyond...)
We watched the LEOs step up, and empty their 17s (the fullsize version), onto the targets at 12 yards...
Most of them were having trouble hitting the ground with their hats!
One fellow was particularly proud of keeping all 18 on the target... from elbow to elbow!
She stepped up, and put all 15: K-5!
They looked at her as if she were a freak...
Her response...
"You guys HAVE to shoot; I LIKE to shoot!"
I have to work pretty hard with my Ruger P-85, or my 1911 to keep ahead of her...

[Cavman]

I have taken the course before and have trained with over 90 LEOs. They don't get very good training.
As your wife said, she likes to shoot.

Several years ago in the city of Atlanta, they had over 65 cops that could NOT qualify on the range. How sad is that?

[Bob Denman]

You would think that they'd take their firearms training seriously; it could certainly save their lives!
Sadly; they don't seem to!

[Netminder]

You would think that they'd take their firearms training seriously; it could certainly save their lives!
Sadly; they don't seem to!

As well as other lives!!

[bruiser]

Like everything else, it comes down to budgets. Ammo costs money and in order to keep every officer proficient it takes a large amount of money. Plus they would have to pay the officer for his time on the range and weapons care afterwards. Officers would have to have range time for all weapons including rifles and shotguns. And we all know that Homeland is buying up all the ammo.

[Bob Denman]

Thanks Goodness, that at least WE know the importance of remaining proficient!

[SNOOPY]

I'd like to take some deeper training classes, at least to get more insight, instead of just being another dude w/ a weapon. Just need motivation I guess.

[Bob Denman]

Waiting for motivation, is like waiting for a freight train... By the time you see it; you've already missed it!

[SNOOPY]

I know, I just don't think about it. Just gotta do it...maybe make a post it note... lol

[Bob Denman]

You know something; things are never quite as "hunky dory", as we're ever told...
Why not let this part of the discussion drop? He'll just throw up any number of news articles about shooting and violence over here...
..and somebody will insult somebody else...
... and we're back in the middle of a pissing match!

[Bob Denman]

Thanks!

[Fat Crip]

Apparently, things in the UK aren't as hunky dory as we've been told. Pretty interesting article. Especially the comments.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ur-police.html



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Yes that's the sole incident of any police being shot in living memory that I referenced in my comment. One incident in my life time and though it raised the debate again, still the UK police prefer not to be armed. The two girls killed were good friends of my Buell mechanic in Manchester. Sadly they were murdered whilst they were attending a routine incident by a psychopath intent on killing a police officer. Being armed wouldn't have helped them. Being such a unique case the whole country talked about it for months.


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[bruiser]

I find throwing some lead down range to be therapeutic.

[reverendg]

I find throwing some lead down range to be therapeutic.

So do I, the wife noticed that some years back. On a cloudy Saturday morning she saw me looking at the sky and said "You're going shooting". When I hesitated a moment she clarified with "It wasn't a question, you have had a long week and are acting crabby. A morning out shooting always improves your attitude. GO!"

Last summer she learned how nice it is to take a Spyder ride out to the range and throw some lead downrange. She is still getting used to handgun shooting. A snub .357 is a bit much, but she works it with 38 specials in it. My Mark II Target 22 seems to have been appropriated by her, which works well, since it has her getting the fundamentals down. She has her own 9mm now as well, and sees a day at the range as therapeutic. Even more so when we take the long way home on the Spyder, out in farm country or along the lake.

[vrodrjs]

I find throwing some lead down range to be therapeutic.

There is a range 10 minutes from the office. After a tough morning at the office I like to go to the range for lunch. Nothing like it to lower the blood pressure.

[Bob Denman]