.....and I carry.

[HuckFin]

How many Non Leos here have ever used a weapon to stop a crime, or hold a criminal, until a Leo could intervene?

Not taking a side. Just asking a question.

Me.....And the crime would have been against me.

[Bob Denman]

Someone- NOT ME! Needs to start a ---
Why I Do Not Carry and Have NEVER personally carried a Weapon on my Person in my lifetime Thread?
If you carry OR Have ever carried "Do Not Respond!!!"
ALSO- Please leave Home defense out of the Equation!!!
???????????????
Remember -Not My Idea?

Awwwww... I volunteer YOU for the thread starter

C'mon; it might be interesting to see why folks do what they do, on the OTHER side of the fence!

[wyliec]

Awwwww... I volunteer YOU for the thread starter

C'mon; it might be interesting to see why folks do what they do, on the OTHER side of the fence!

I second that motion. All in favor.

[Bob Denman]

[Sarge707]

I second that motion. All in favor.

No Way- Trying to keep a Low Profile AND I,m too shy and reserved!

[Bob Denman]

[vrodrjs]

The Swedish Bikini Team???

I am in!!!!!

[Bob Denman]

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[SNOOPY]

For me it all depends on the make up of the group.

Me too....jury is still out on this forum for me.... lots of set-in-their-minds-old-fogies here!



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[Dan McNally]

This is quite a floorboard! Made by http://convictcustomcycles.com/

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[SNOOPY]

Cool

[Dan_Ashley]

Likewise here in the UK. Here not even the police here are armed with anything more than a truncheon most of the time. Even carrying a knife here will get you arrested. Carrying a gun, even a 22 will get you five years in jail. Some of you may find that madness, but it's why no one gets shot here and on the odd occasion they do it's headline news.


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law enforcement without a gun??? No way on God's planet would I consider that. I carried three. I am here because I did. English cops without guns??? I can imagine nothing dumber. I really mean that--nothing dumber.

[wyliec]

This is quite a floorboard! Made by http://convictcustomcycles.com/

gun board.jpg

That's pretty cool; but, from what I see/read on spyderlovers there are quite a few people that would find it difficult to bend that far.

[Dan McNally]

That's pretty cool; but, from what I see/read on spyderlovers there are quite a few people that would find it difficult to bend that far.

[Bob Denman]

law enforcement without a gun??? No way on God's planet would I consider that. I carried three. I am here because I did. English cops without guns??? I can imagine nothing dumber. I really mean that--nothing dumber.

Let's be a bit careful...
It's a different society... please don't try to judge them by OUR yardsticks; they've got their own.

[wyliec]

The Swedish Bikini Team???

I lean more toward the athletic type:

http://www.rantsports.com/clubhouse/...on-the-planet/

[Bob Denman]

It made me sweat; just LOOKING at them!

[Dan_Ashley]

Let's be a bit careful...
It's a different society... please don't try to judge them by OUR yardsticks; they've got their own.

Maybe I spent too much time on a skid row foot beat.

[Dan_Ashley]

Not really,

The drug dealers and gangs with guns has been growing in the UK. It's not like they have no armed personnel there. Their police force is generally viewed as uniformed citizens. They have no training in fire arms, so indeed it's a different society. There are plenty of debates in the UK regarding what to do with their growing drug/gang/crime problem, but for the most part, it remains a debate.


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I used to believe, not based on any schooling, but only on what I saw, that gang members understand only the pain term in the psychological pain pleasure theory of human motivation.

[Fat Crip]

law enforcement without a gun??? No way on God's planet would I consider that. I carried three. I am here because I did. English cops without guns??? I can imagine nothing dumber. I really mean that--nothing dumber.

Dan, your missing the point. If simply carrying a gun will get you five years and the police don't carry guns why would any criminal go to the considerable trouble and huge expense of getting a gun? The minute you arm the police the criminal needs to carry, so the cop needs a bigger gun (or three), so the criminal wants a machine gun etc., etc. You just start an arms race.

In the last ten years we have only had one incident of a fatal shooting of the police and even then they wouldn't have stood a chance, guns or not.

The uk police don't want guns and generally resent the odd occasions when they do have to carry them.

The US clearly does not have the luxury of choice here. With more guns per head of population than just about anywhere and a similarly disastrous incidence of fatal shootings it is no wonder that every Tom, Dick or Harry with enough cash feels the need to have a gun!

I've always wanted to visit your country, but this discussion has put me off rather. A policeman shoots an unarmed drunk in Walmart and gets praised for doing his duty? A victim of a mass shooting by a madman with an assault rifle thinks the answer is more guns not less? You can't ride a motorcycle without packing a piece and you don't think there's anything wrong with that? Sure, you've crossed the Rubicon, you can't put the genie back in the bottle, but surely you can't be proud of what you're second amendment has created? Let alone call us sums for living in a country where the risk of getting shot by a criminal or a police officer is practically zero?

Oh and I don't live in England! Scotland is next door to England and both are constituent parts of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

[SNOOPY]

Funny you say you have a fear of coming to the US because of stories you hear, I feel the same way about Europe. There is no way I would ever visit Europe as an American because of all the violence that I hear that goes on there. And no, you're not going to change my mind. Lol

[shelbydave]

The US clearly does not have the luxury of choice here.

Actually, it is YOU that does not have a choice. Some people on here carry, some people don't. It's their choice.

I don't carry, or even own a gun, yet I respect the rights of those who DO (legally) carry.

I will admit that there are a lot of guns in the WRONG hands over here, but I also don't think that has anything to do with the 2nd amendment. Bad people are going to do bad things. You also say that simply carrying a gun will get you 5 years, well another problem over here is that we can't make those 5 years so miserable they never want to come back, so if we had a 5 year sentence for possession of a firearm, criminals wouldn't care. They get free meals, a bed to sleep in, in many cases a room to themselves, all rent free.

It's not our 2nd amendment that is the problem, it's the justice system. There is no real punishment for crimes over here.

[Bob Denman]

Who would like some ice cream?
He doesn't live here; he has no background in his life that would give him the perspective that we have...
Likewise; we lack the perspective to know how his societal norms work for him...
Let's just back away from the table, and agree to disagree...

And in case anybody wants to forget MY perspective... NRA Benefactor 01.jpg If I can live and let live; the rest of you should be able to manage it as well.

[vrodrjs]

Wait a minute, are you saying that the media tells you what they want you to hear in an effort to help form your opinion? Next thing you are gonna say is that everything you read on the internet isn't true.

[Bob Denman]