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SE6 or SM6?
Went and visited Yamaha Fun Center in Boerne, TX this last week to see the RT-S in person and will be scheduling test rides and pulling the trigger this weekend.
The question is...which transmission? SE6 or SM6? I had the SM5 on my old 2008 Spyder and liked it just fine, but for a $1,500 difference in price, what does the collective wisdom of this forum think? Is the SE6 more desirable, hold better resale or does it take you further away from being a motorcycle?
I'll try to get to ride both before I order one but wanted to hear what you all say. Thanks
San Antonio, TX - 2014 RT-S Yellow (of course). Added BRP driver backrest to stock seat. Need to solve Blutooth and iPhone 5S integration problems next.
Former owner of a yellow 2008 Spyder, Cal Sci windshield, Crampbusters, KewlMetal mirror extensions, NoMagicNeon 4" risers, Corbin Seats and dual backrests. Happy Spyder Owner
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Well; what do the "shifting-bits" of your body tell you?
I like the "ESSIE"; but that's just me...
Some folks prefer to have more "control" over the bike...
It's your cash, and your call!
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I prefer the manual and I think that you will really like the clutch operation in the 2014 as compared to older models. For me the SE is boring - and I like to shift. As for resale, I don't see where one should be worth more or less than the initial investment. Will you have a larger market of potential buyers with the SE? Yes, they sell more of them but there are still many of us out there who prefer the manual.
You will certainly hear from all of the SE lovers which is expected but you and only you can decide what you prefer to ride. Don't buy something just because you think you may get a few more bucks at resale time.
2017 F3T-SM6 Squared Away Mirror Wedgies & Alignment
2014 RTS-SM6 123,600 miles Sold 11/2017
2014 RTL-SE6 8,600 miles
2011 RTS-SM5 5,000 miles
2013 RTS-SM5 burned up with 13,200 miles in 13 weeks
2010 RTS-SM5 59,148 miles
2010 RT- 622
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2011 RT-S SM5 - Black
Bought June 2013 with 450 miles. 27K on 8-1-2017.
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The wife and I have always had the sm but after riding the 2014 se we were sold on it and love it!
Try to ride both and compare for yourself.
Toby
2020 RTL
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I like the SM. Less things to go wrong.
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It's very much a personal choice.
That said, if, the SE has any draw backs - performance wise. I have not found them. And trust me when I say this. I use it.
Get what works for you.
Identify what you have control over and find peace with what you don't.
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Want to enjoy the ride or shift your butt off? Also, resale, resale, resale.
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The main difference, in my opinion, is NOT shifting, but the floorboard option that is only available with the SE6. If you want them, you have no choice. I don't know if the SM6 is available without the floorboards. I'm sure there are those who can tell us...
Everyone I've seen that posted concerning the electronic shift is sold on it. It is apparently a hit with the owners.
Last edited by MarkLawson; 03-17-2014 at 12:27 PM.
Mark & Mary Lou Lawson
Snellville, GA USA
'10 RT-S PE #0031
'10 RT-622 Trailer
'08 Yellow SM5 #2332
'01 Black GL1800A Goldwing #0930
"Remember in the darkness what you have learned in the light." - Joe Bayly
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Personal choice...for me...SE all the time.
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Originally Posted by cougar
Want to enjoy the ride or shift your butt off? Also, resale, resale, resale.
Does the resale value stay high because of the transmission or simply the initial higher cost or is it a combination of the tranny and the floorboards?
San Antonio, TX - 2014 RT-S Yellow (of course). Added BRP driver backrest to stock seat. Need to solve Blutooth and iPhone 5S integration problems next.
Former owner of a yellow 2008 Spyder, Cal Sci windshield, Crampbusters, KewlMetal mirror extensions, NoMagicNeon 4" risers, Corbin Seats and dual backrests. Happy Spyder Owner
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I didn't keep track of the split in here...
My impression, was that it was pretty close to evenly divided...
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Originally Posted by TonyMac
Does the resale value stay high because of the transmission or simply the initial higher cost or is it a combination of the tranny and the floorboards?
I would guess that the difference in resale value would be directly related to the difference in initial cost. The floorboards do not offer many options for foot placement unlike some if the aftermarket boards. I put over 5500 miles on a 2914 Limited and now have 2400 miles on my RTS-SM6 and I do not miss the floorboards one bit. It is all a personal choice.
2017 F3T-SM6 Squared Away Mirror Wedgies & Alignment
2014 RTS-SM6 123,600 miles Sold 11/2017
2014 RTL-SE6 8,600 miles
2011 RTS-SM5 5,000 miles
2013 RTS-SM5 burned up with 13,200 miles in 13 weeks
2010 RTS-SM5 59,148 miles
2010 RT- 622
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Originally Posted by danlnc
I like the SM. Less things to go wrong.
And one LESS filter to change and more feeling of control in the process!
I have one of each.
2015 F3 sm6, Custom Dynamics fender lights.
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Had both & like both. Without a cost factor it is totally what you prefer.
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The SE won't leave black marks on your white sneakers.
Last edited by granpa in Cincy; 03-17-2014 at 06:09 PM.
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For me the choice largely came down to money. When I bought my 2010 I was quoted an extra $2K for the SE and decided that for that price, after 40+ years of shifting motorcycles with my foot, I could continue to do so. Since I planned on keeping the Spyder for many years (and still do) I didn't think I would ever recoup the increase in sale price with any increase in future trade in value.
As has already been said, it's a matter of personal preference. I have never found shifting a motorcycle onerous, but if one does the SE would be the way to go.
Mike
www.rtwrder.net
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I too shifted with my foot for just under 40 years. But then it began to hurt my hand holding in the clutch at a traffic light. So I got the SE on my 2014 Cognac and I'm very glad that I did.
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Originally Posted by TonyMac
Does the resale value stay high because of the transmission or simply the initial higher cost or is it a combination of the tranny and the floorboards?
As the floorboards are new with the '14 RT SE6, the resale on the floorboards wouldn't be known.
Mark & Mary Lou Lawson
Snellville, GA USA
'10 RT-S PE #0031
'10 RT-622 Trailer
'08 Yellow SM5 #2332
'01 Black GL1800A Goldwing #0930
"Remember in the darkness what you have learned in the light." - Joe Bayly
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Could be confusing
The way these `14's ride shifting is the only way I can tell the difference between my Spyder and my sofa !
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Originally Posted by TonyMac
Is the SE6 more desirable, hold better resale or does it take you further away from being a motorcycle?
It totally takes away the motorcycle experience. Without the clutch, it might as well be a snowmobile with tires
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