Got my order in today for the Elio!

[ARtraveler]

The latest I read was that production was now moved to 2015. They were going to concentrate on filling all the current orders.

Mockups still with plastic engines? Seems they are running out of time on this one.

I still remain one of their harshest critics and my opinion has not changed from my postings in many earlier threads. I just cannot jump on board, based on what I have seen and read. Been following this for about three years now.

EDIT: Have also mentioned that I hope I am wrong. I do not want people to lose their deposits or end up with a machine that is unreliable and unserviceable. Back when the Yugo first came out, the dealer in Duluth lasted a whole month.

[Dan_Ashley]

The latest I read was that production was now moved to 2015. They were going to concentrate on filling all the current orders.

Mockups still with plastic engines? Seems they are running out of time on this one.

I still remain one of their harshest critics and my opinion has not changed from my postings in many earlier threads. I just cannot jump on board, based on what I have seen and read. Been following this for about three years now.

You and I agree. However, I hope I am wrong. I was right about pets.com. I was wrong about amazon.com. I was right about the Yugo. I was wrong about Netscape.

[Illinois Boy]

This entire episode may go down in history as one of the biggest scams in history -- most certainly one of the longer ones.

Seriously... these guys have been caught in outright lies about property they secured; among other things. It is a wonder they are not in jail yet.

But what the heck... if they can make a vehicle that can do everything they say it can, at the price they claim they can sell it for; then they'll sell far more than they can make. Personally, I am not holding my breath.

I am not trying to be offensive with my comments; but there have been far too many delays, lies, and changes in plans with this project for anyone to take it serious; while they continue to take money from people gullible enough to send it to them

If I am wrong; I'll be the first to subject myself to fifty lashes in the public square. In the meantime, I hope most people are wiser with their money.

[Dan_Ashley]

If I am wrong; I'll be the first to subject myself to fifty lashes in the public square. In the meantime, I hope most people are wiser with their money.

You still have public squares in Illinois?

We converted the ones in California into condominiums.

[Illinois Boy]

You still have public squares in Illinois?

We converted the ones in California into condominiums.

Yes, we still have town squares in the small towns; however given our state's and local fiscal condition (second worst only to CA); they are considering selling the naming rights! Or maybe turning them into gambling casinos...

[Dan_Ashley]

Yes, we still have town squares in the small towns; however given our state's and local fiscal condition (second worst only to CA); they are considering selling the naming rights! Or maybe turning them into gambling casinos...

LOL.

[Dan_Ashley]

Announced today...another six month delay on production start. http://www.ktbs.com/story/25690249/p...-in-shreveport

[Bob Denman]

I'm STILL hoping that they can actually start building and selling these!
American jobs...

[ARtraveler]

Announced today...another six month delay on production start. http://www.ktbs.com/story/25690249/p...-in-shreveport

And here we go again. More delays and this time its because of a funding problem--Duuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Maybe they should up the deposits from $100 or so--

This truly is starting to look like a very long running scam. Talk about carrot and stick! I would like to see American jobs and American products put on the market. But this is more and more looking like way to good to be true. I for sure will not be investing even $1.00 into the company.

The saga continues......................................... .............

[AZLife]

I'm sure it's not a scam. If it is, Pep Boys is getting a piece of the profits for letting them use their name as their Service Center. I'm still optimistic, and so are a bunch of my friends that also went all in for $1K. So at least I won't be the only fool . Till then, at least I have something to look forward to.

[Bob Denman]

Keeping them crossed for you!

[ARtraveler]

I'm sure it's not a scam. If it is, Pep Boys is getting a piece of the profits for letting them use their name as their Service Center. I'm still optimistic, and so are a bunch of my friends that also went all in for $1K. So at least I won't be the only fool . Till then, at least I have something to look forward to.

Most don't think of early depositors as fools. Elio has been using a very slick advertising campaign. There is one going on as we speak, on the Yahoo home page. Nothing new, just a commercial that they got someone to sponser as a public relations thing.

The history of the product, the claims, the never ending delays--these are the things that I speak about. If it comes off as advertised, I have said many times that I will be one of the first in line to admit that I have been wrong.

If it turns out to be a failure, the latest stats say that 18,000 people have put deposits up. Those are the people that I will feel bad for.

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...142815228.html

[Dan_Ashley]

I do not understand. If this is such a great idea, creates gobs of profit, and fills a real need, then why have NONE of the majors pursued it? (Answer: 'cuz it ain't profitable.)

[Marauder]

I ORDERED MINE WITH THE $100 T-shirt ALSO! CAN't WAIT!!

So, I know this is not a Spyder related post but this vehicle will be parked in my garage next to my 2013 Can-Am Spyder RT-S, so that has to count for something. Elio Motors is now taking reservations for an 84 MPG 3-wheel "motorcycle" that will sure look familiar to all of us here. I just purchased my spot in line for ownership of one! Very cool. I will hopefully be able to make it to Phoenix on Thursday to sit in a prototype. Best thing is it's American made and based out of Phoenix, AZ at this time. 84 MPG on highway even with the AC on....come on, why couldn't Can-Am have done this. And it's even 200 pounds heavier than an RT-S. An 8 gallon tank and 672 mile capacity....Holy Cow. Can it really be true.

Thoughts? Anyone out here in SpyderLand put an order in for one? Will you replace your Spyder with it? I hear they will have sunroof options, and who knows, maybe even a convertible Elio someday, lol!

http://www.eliomotors.com/

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[Bob Denman]

[ARtraveler]

I think the advertising really works.

[Bob Denman]

I'm still hoping for the best for my friends...

[Dan_Ashley]

I think the advertising really works.

Pet rocks.
canned New York City air
canned Los Angeles smog
homeopathy
vitamin water
low: salt, fat, carbs
organic vegetables

Yes, I agree advertising works.

[Bob Denman]

A thousand years ago, while serving my Collegiate Sentence, I had a Marketing Professor who swore that, "the only thing that can sell a poor product, is GREAT marketing!"


He was correct!

[Texas]

I wish him luck, though I would have strong reservations based on past personal experiences. I put down a deposit on a couple of different vehicles that were promised to be produced, but never panned out. After a few, to several months, I got my deposit back. In those cases, there were no "free T-Shirt", so they could not defend keeping the deposit to my credit card company, because no good were delivered.

However, I suppose in this case, the company can claim that you purchased a T-Shirt for $100. If you say you want to return the T-Shirt, they may charge you for shipping and a restocking fee, which in the end, may not leave you with much of a refund. I hope you get the vehicle, but it isn't easy getting a vehicle like that on the road here in the U.S.; as I'm sure the company has/is finding out.

One of the deposits I made was on a Aptera (California Company) back in 2007. Those vehicles still aren't on the road, and since then, the company has changed direction more times that I can count; to the point I have no more interest in them.

[Dan_Ashley]

One of the deposits I made was on a Aptera (California Company) back in 2007. Those vehicles still aren't on the road, and since then, the company has changed direction more times that I can count; to the point I have no more interest in them.

I did that with Aptera too. I also got my money back. I thought Aptera went out of business. Am I wrong about that?

[Texas]

I did that with Aptera too. I also got my money back. I thought Aptera went out of business. Am I wrong about that?

No, you're right about that; although there was news just last year that they were trying to bring it back:
http://www.gizmag.com/aptera-indepen...tion-us/27868/

Here is an interesting article that talks about the events leading up to their closing in 2011, although by this time, I was no longer interested in it:

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/...ete-chronology

It also supports the reason why I am doubtful Elio will be successful as well. It takes too much money, and there are just too many regulations and liabilities associated with a machine like that. It's too bad too. I would love to see more alternative options for transportation on the road.

[spyderyderjim]

Most don't think of early depositors as fools. Elio has been using a very slick advertising campaign. There is one going on as we speak, on the Yahoo home page. Nothing new, just a commercial that they got someone to sponsor as a public relations thing.

The history of the product, the claims, the never ending delays--these are the things that I speak about. If it comes off as advertised, I have said many times that I will be one of the first in line to admit that I have been wrong.

If it turns out to be a failure, the latest stats say that 18,000 people have put deposits up. Those are the people that I will feel bad for.

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...142815228.html

Thanks for input/info.
To put Elio money deposit in perspective; I lost $10,000 trading in my 2013 Spyder RT-S SE5 only 9 months old, on a new 2014 Spyder RT-S SE6.
I am sure many other 2013 RT Spyder owners lost similar on 2014 RT trade in.
BRP kept the 2014 RT 1330 in line triple motor & SE6 trans a total secret until Sept 2013.
Basically lying to Spyder owners like myself who bought the 2013 RT, in order to sell their heat problem 2013 RT's with a 2014 frame under it.
Life is too short to worry about a few $$$.
The 2014 Spyder RT-S SE6 has an awesome torque triple motor, smooth shifting trans, improved handling, gas mileage, etc!!!
Enjoy the ryde!!!
Jim

[Bob Denman]

[ARtraveler]

Thanks for input/info.
To put Elio money deposit in perspective; I lost $10,000 trading in my 2013 Spyder RT-S SE5 only 9 months old, on a new 2014 Spyder RT-S SE6.
I am sure many other 2013 RT Spyder owners lost similar on 2014 RT trade in.
BRP kept the 2014 RT 1330 in line triple motor & SE6 trans a total secret until Sept 2013.
Basically lying to Spyder owners like myself who bought the 2013 RT, in order to sell their heat problem 2013 RT's with a 2014 frame under it.
Life is too short to worry about a few $$$.
The 2014 Spyder RT-S SE6 has an awesome torque triple motor, smooth shifting trans, improved handling, gas mileage, etc!!!
Enjoy the ryde!!!
Jim

Right you are. Elio is not the only money pit. At least they are not requiring full deposits in advance.

RE: Spyders: I figure I lost about $8K when I traded my fully farkled 2008 on the 2010 RTS Premier. I also figure I am down a couple K on my latest trade for a 2014 RT-S.

In retrospect though--With the Spyders, I have always been a happy camper. I love the product and realize that they are way more expensive to own than a lot of other cycle type vehicles.

Not so sure the Elio people will be as happy. Quality, longevity, serviceability, are all items that are yet to be determined in the saga.