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White 2013 Spyder RT Limited. BajaRon Swaybar, Custom Dynamic Third Brake Light. Ultimate Custom Black and White seat with driver and passenger back rest. Gloryder Led Wheel lights.Custom Dynamics Led Bright sides, Amber and Red Fender lights, and Saddle Bag Bright sides.
2016 F3 Limited Intense Red Pearl. Lidlox, BRP Driver Back Rest, BRP Passenger Back Rest,Fog Lights, GPS, Signature Light! Custom Dynamics LED Bright Sides, Amber and Red Fender lights, and Saddle Bag Bright Sides.
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Originally Posted by Magdave
Here is my ride update. First remember my mods I have DEI heat tape on tank and extra BRP insulation around the plastic gas cap & under glovebox area.
I took 2 roads one north one south. Wind from south. Going north ambient read 82-84 going south 78-79. Speed was 55-65 and 10 min in town.
Average speed=35mph
Mileage =71mi.
Digital coolant temp on road=4bars
In town =5bars
temp at stop for refill
Gas Cap = 105deg
Spine= 92deg
Glovebox area=92
Metal foot peg area L side=110deg
Metal foot peg area R side=116deg
Plastic above both foot peg areas 92deg
All measurements done with 3 minutes after stopping at gas refill
MPG 71mi /2.25gal =31.5mpg. I have never seen much above 25mpg average before ECM update and a lot higher temp measurements. Should be interesting to see what happens when we get to 90deg.
Fascinating! At what temperature is the Turkey done and how long should we let it rest? Before Carving!
White 2013 Spyder RT Limited. BajaRon Swaybar, Custom Dynamic Third Brake Light. Ultimate Custom Black and White seat with driver and passenger back rest. Gloryder Led Wheel lights.Custom Dynamics Led Bright sides, Amber and Red Fender lights, and Saddle Bag Bright sides.
2016 F3 Limited Intense Red Pearl. Lidlox, BRP Driver Back Rest, BRP Passenger Back Rest,Fog Lights, GPS, Signature Light! Custom Dynamics LED Bright Sides, Amber and Red Fender lights, and Saddle Bag Bright Sides.
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2013 Mag Silver SE5 RT BahaRon Sway bar & Sway bar links, Grip Puppies, Kuryakyn Helmet locks , Ultimate Seat w/Utopia Backrest, Dash power outlet, Spyderpops BumpSkid, Swagman Cup holders, Full size Brake Pedal, Seal DLX Floorboards, Freeway Blaster horns, Sylvania Super Bright fender LEDs, Scotchlite 680 Rear & Fender Reflectors, BRP Fog Light Kit, LED Mirror turn signal strips, 2014 RT grille mod. Outlaw Laser Alignment
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Originally Posted by Baseball79ST2013
Higher idle?
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Originally Posted by Magdave
I already knew Cali was getting the update. I was trying to give you and your dealer a chance to save face and admit the bulletin does say
" B - Update ECM with latest software
Update ECM with latest software to correct the outlined problems.
Note: Updating the software may slightly improve riders comfort from heat in ◆some riding conditions"
◆above 42 degress latitude?
Guess you didn't get the hint
Identify what you have control over and find peace with what you don't.
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Originally Posted by Jerbear
2013 Mag Silver SE5 RT BahaRon Sway bar & Sway bar links, Grip Puppies, Kuryakyn Helmet locks , Ultimate Seat w/Utopia Backrest, Dash power outlet, Spyderpops BumpSkid, Swagman Cup holders, Full size Brake Pedal, Seal DLX Floorboards, Freeway Blaster horns, Sylvania Super Bright fender LEDs, Scotchlite 680 Rear & Fender Reflectors, BRP Fog Light Kit, LED Mirror turn signal strips, 2014 RT grille mod. Outlaw Laser Alignment
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WOW, been lurking for months, my first post !! Had to do it !!
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Dropped mine off this morning to get the update/fuse block repair done. They didn't seem too happy that they had to remove 2 extra screws from the bump/skid to get the frunk off, at least I told them about the extra screws. They told me warranty don't pay extra to remove stuff, ok... it's 2 screws. I also requested a copy of the BUDS report AFTER the ECM update to make sure it is indeed updated. Will post follow up report later after I pick it up.
Sold my 14 RTS went back to 2 wheels.
2014 Kawasaki Vaquero SE
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Originally Posted by 3 Wheel Addict
Dropped mine off this morning to get the update/fuse block repair done. They didn't seem too happy that they had to remove 2 extra screws from the bump/skid to get the frunk off, at least I told them about the extra screws. They told me warranty don't pay extra to remove stuff, ok... it's 2 screws. I also requested a copy of the BUDS report AFTER the ECM update to make sure it is indeed updated. Will post follow up report later after I pick it up.
I ran into the same problem but did not pay extra. The tech had a hard time trying to pull it off with those still in.
2013 Mag Silver SE5 RT BahaRon Sway bar & Sway bar links, Grip Puppies, Kuryakyn Helmet locks , Ultimate Seat w/Utopia Backrest, Dash power outlet, Spyderpops BumpSkid, Swagman Cup holders, Full size Brake Pedal, Seal DLX Floorboards, Freeway Blaster horns, Sylvania Super Bright fender LEDs, Scotchlite 680 Rear & Fender Reflectors, BRP Fog Light Kit, LED Mirror turn signal strips, 2014 RT grille mod. Outlaw Laser Alignment
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Identify what you have control over and find peace with what you don't.
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New mapping for 2013 spyders
Yes, the idle is a bit higher than before..
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Originally Posted by Baseball79ST2013
Yes, the idle is a bit higher than before..
What are you seeing now?
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Originally Posted by Baseball79ST2013
Yes, the idle is a bit higher than before..
I haven't had that side effect. It has been idling up to ~2k when cold but always drops to 1.3-1.4k as it always has in the past.
2013 Mag Silver SE5 RT BahaRon Sway bar & Sway bar links, Grip Puppies, Kuryakyn Helmet locks , Ultimate Seat w/Utopia Backrest, Dash power outlet, Spyderpops BumpSkid, Swagman Cup holders, Full size Brake Pedal, Seal DLX Floorboards, Freeway Blaster horns, Sylvania Super Bright fender LEDs, Scotchlite 680 Rear & Fender Reflectors, BRP Fog Light Kit, LED Mirror turn signal strips, 2014 RT grille mod. Outlaw Laser Alignment
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New mapping for 2013 spyders
Is over 2, prior to the mapping it was under 2..
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Originally Posted by Baseball79ST2013
Is over 2, prior to the mapping it was under 2..
When warm it is idling over 2? In cold weather it will go there on start up but should drop when warm...30sec-1min. That is strange.
2013 Mag Silver SE5 RT BahaRon Sway bar & Sway bar links, Grip Puppies, Kuryakyn Helmet locks , Ultimate Seat w/Utopia Backrest, Dash power outlet, Spyderpops BumpSkid, Swagman Cup holders, Full size Brake Pedal, Seal DLX Floorboards, Freeway Blaster horns, Sylvania Super Bright fender LEDs, Scotchlite 680 Rear & Fender Reflectors, BRP Fog Light Kit, LED Mirror turn signal strips, 2014 RT grille mod. Outlaw Laser Alignment
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Originally Posted by Baseball79ST2013
Is over 2, prior to the mapping it was under 2..
Hate to say it but that needs to be checked. Shifting into gear at that high of idle speed would not be good for the trans. The ECM update should have nothing to do with the idle so that is weird.... keep us posted on your outcome.
Sold my 14 RTS went back to 2 wheels.
2014 Kawasaki Vaquero SE
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Originally Posted by Magdave
When warm it is idling over 2? In cold weather it will go there on start up but should drop when warm...30sec-1min. That is strange.
The specified idle speed on the 2013 and erlier machines is 1350 +/- 50 rpm. If yours is idling at two grand they screwed up when servicing it (knocked loose a vacuum hose?) or the Spyder has a problem they have not discovered. You need to take it back to the dealer. Sorry.
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
2011 RT-622 trailer, Aspen Sentry popup camper, custom motorcycle trailer to pull behind the Spyder
Mutant Trikes Forever!
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Originally Posted by 3 Wheel Addict
Dropped mine off this morning to get the update/fuse block repair done. They didn't seem too happy that they had to remove 2 extra screws from the bump/skid to get the frunk off, at least I told them about the extra screws. They told me warranty don't pay extra to remove stuff, ok... it's 2 screws. I also requested a copy of the BUDS report AFTER the ECM update to make sure it is indeed updated. Will post follow up report later after I pick it up.
Heres the follow up after picking it up this afternoon, first I got a BUDS report after the ECM update was done and indeed my "BRP assembly number" has changed to 420666636. That is a different number than what was in my last BUDS report and this new number matches the service bulletin, so that great! First thing I noticed is a way smoother idle. Now as far as temps go it was 39 degrees when I went over there and upon arriving I opened the seat to feel the gas cap and frame backbone, both were really warm for the 39 degree temp. After riding home I checked the cap and the backbone again and both were not nearly as warm and the outside temp was 48 degrees. I left my thermal gun at the shop but I will be monitoring the temps when the weather gets better for riding.
Also! I asked the service mgr. why some people have been told that their 13's don't need the ECM update and he told me that they are indeed done by serial number but only checked by logging into BRP through the BUDS system. I asked why the service bulletin states ALL 13's get the update and he said that means ALL need to be checked through BUDS. So that does and does not straighten it out???
Sold my 14 RTS went back to 2 wheels.
2014 Kawasaki Vaquero SE
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old rider from Mass
have new 2013 rt still in box waiting for Spring hope all the up-dates are taken care of when I go to drive it away after all this $#@#@! SNOW is gone
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Originally Posted by oldrider
have new 2013 rt still in box waiting for Spring hope all the up-dates are taken care of when I go to drive it away after all this $#@#@! SNOW is gone
Usually on PDIs, one of the steps is hooking the vehicle up to the dealer software to ensure all recalls/service bulletins are taken care of.
Clifford Fargason
2013 Spyder RTL
2007 Royal Star Venture
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