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    OK. I have 300 miles on the New RTS. I feel a shake in the handle bars above 60 MPH. Are the Spyders sensitive to tire balance??
    I jacked the front end up and spun each front wheel. The right side looked pretty good. Left side did not look so round. Kinda looked like it had
    a flat spot. I decided to go out and get the tires warmed up and recheck the tires. They both looked much better after warming up. I guess the flat spot when they sit over night. I check the tire pressure in the fronts it was 20psi.


    Are the factory tires a good tire???? Or should I be looking for a better quality tire???

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    No more sensitive than anything else. Sounds like you got one where they either didn't balance them or have a bad tire\wheel.
    I had this issue when i got screwed changing wheels. The tire shop just didnt balance them when switching things over to my new wheels. I only noticed the vibe at 60+ so it took a few days to realize. When it starts to vibrate look at your fenders. Which one looks like its going to fall off?

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    The left fender shakes more than the right.

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    Yea, sounds like balance. Head back to the dealer, they should be able to get it taken care of.

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    I have noticed a "harmonic vibration" on the 2014 RT at speeds of 75 and up. Others have reported the same thing. I didn't look to see if the tires have a lot of weights on them but they are at equal pressure
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    My right tire has a 5 inch long strip of weight. the left has one small weight.

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    Default Have to agree..!!

    mounting and balancing is important and can cause these problems. Good idea to take it to the dealer and have them check it out. Usually if there are a lot of weights the tire was mounted wrong. Many times when the tire is on the rim but not seated it can move around on the rim..
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    I will check tomorrow.

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    Although probably not the answer to your problem, make sure you get a laser alignment.

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    Going to have the alignment done by the Squared away folks when they out here in February.

    I am going to get the tire balance checked tomorrow.

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    Are we going to see a motec powered RT in the future?

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    Default Front End Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01 View Post
    I have noticed a "harmonic vibration" on the 2014 RT at speeds of 75 and up. Others have reported the same thing. I didn't look to see if the tires have a lot of weights on them but they are at equal pressure
    Hi,
    You mention harmonic vibration as a symptom. I don't know, but doesn't that sound more like a belt tension issue? Although, sounds kind of early for the belt on a '14 to stretch, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewNJ View Post
    Are we going to see a motec powered RT in the future?

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    I am trying to keep from going there! The wife would kill me if I put a Motec ECU on our brand new toy . But the spyders have the same ECU as the watercraft. I can see it now!!! 9000 rpm turbo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nils888 View Post
    I am trying to keep from going there! The wife would kill me if I put a Motec ECU on our brand new toy . But the spyders have the same ECU as the watercraft. I can see it now!!! 9000 rpm turbo.
    Hahaha......Its in your blood! And nobody would be able to do it any better than you! You know that.

    Heck, its just an over glorified Spark ace motor, right....haha

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    Default Tire balance

    Quote Originally Posted by Nils888 View Post
    OK. I have 300 miles on the New RTS. I feel a shake in the handle bars above 60 MPH. Are the Spyders sensitive to tire balance??
    I jacked the front end up and spun each front wheel. The right side looked pretty good. Left side did not look so round. Kinda looked like it had
    a flat spot. I decided to go out and get the tires warmed up and recheck the tires. They both looked much better after warming up. I guess the flat spot when they sit over night. I check the tire pressure in the fronts it was 20psi.


    Are the factory tires a good tire???? Or should I be looking for a better quality tire???
    I had a similar problem with my RT. Had the tires balanced three times ; still vibrated and shook. Turned out to be a bad tire. My dealer promptly changed it and now all is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewNJ View Post
    Hahaha......Its in your blood! And nobody would be able to do it any better than you! You know that.

    Heck, its just an over glorified Spark ace motor, right....haha

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    It would be cool to see if the put the ACE engine in the RS. Then I would interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyderdale View Post
    I had a similar problem with my RT. Had the tires balanced three times ; still vibrated and shook. Turned out to be a bad tire. My dealer promptly changed it and now all is good.
    I have been looking for after market tires. All I have found in the states so far is Federal 595 EVO 165/55/15. Kumho has tires. But only in Japan.

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    Tire pressures
    Tire balance
    Alignment
    Tire conditions (Could you have a busted belt within it?)

    That's about where your choices lie. Eliminate them; one at a t ime...
    Good Luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post

    Tire pressures
    Tire balance
    Alignment
    Tire conditions (Could you have a busted belt within it?)

    That's about where your choices lie. Eliminate them; one at a t ime...
    Good Luck!
    I am on it It would be a bummer if the tire or tires where bad. I have 300 miles on them so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nils888 View Post
    I am on it It would be a bummer if the tire or tires where bad. I have 300 miles on them so far.

    20 PSI might be a little too high on pressure, i ride at 16.5 - 17 Lbs, but be sure both tires are equally pressured. (some folks like higher pressure but more pressure means more Bounce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruzr Joe View Post
    20 PSI might be a little too high on pressure, i ride at 16.5 - 17 Lbs, but be sure both tires are equally pressured. (some folks like higher pressure but more pressure means more Bounce.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cruzr Joe View Post

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    Thanks Joe. I will try the lower pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nils888 View Post
    I am on it It would be a bummer if the tire or tires where bad. I have 300 miles on them so far.
    I forgot one... Check to make sure that the tires are seated properly on the rims too!
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    It is looking like a pre delivery drive at highway speeds is in order--just to be sure.

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    I went over to the tire shop with my wheels ant tires. The balance was not to far off. The bad part is the right wheel does not spin strait. Both tires are not very round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nils888 View Post
    I went over to the tire shop with my wheels ant tires. The balance was not to far off. The bad part is the right wheel does not spin strait. Both tires are not very round.
    It seems to be that the tires may be the culprit. With the new lower profile tires, did BRP get a batch of "bad" ones?

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