A question for Over-Heated Riders

[BajaRon]

Have you tried this? Though I have not had heating issues I may give it a run after a bit more research. The chart does not compare this product to standard anti-freeze/coolant. But you'd assume it would be higher than any of the tested products. Then again, you know what ASSUME(ing) will get you!

An important item that is always a question with high performance coolant products is boil-over and freeze protection. This one has very good numbers in that respect also.

• Note: Boiling point protection up to 260°F (126.6°C); freezing point protection down to -30°F (-34°C).

I am not promoting or even recommending this product because I have not tried it myself. But it does look very interesting.

[Bob Denman]

Interesting...
I used Engine Ice with very good results in my "686ed" Grizzly 660.
A radiator that was completely clogged with mud : no problem!
It's good to know that there are some actual numbers that can be shown as proof!

[Chupaca]

and certainly worth a try. Being in a warmer climate I have dropped the ratio to 75%-25% water to antifreeze and added water wetter and have had good results. Might switch to this product and see how it does...thanks...

[BajaRon]

and certainly worth a try. Being in a warmer climate I have dropped the ratio to 75%-25% water to antifreeze and added water wetter and have had good results. Might switch to this product and see how it does...thanks...

I am currently running a 70/30 mix with Water Wetter. It dropped me some but I'm always looking for better. I don't see any downside at this point.

[Magdave]

I just wonder if it will affect the BRP warranty. I have a 5 year warranty so I need to be careful about what I do.

[bluestratos]

It should not affect warranty but I would like to see the actual test data to support the claim. I use engine ice for two years and yes, it does drop the temperature as it allows the coolant to make better contact with the radiator so the air passing through picks up more heat. However, it actually raises the under tupperware temperatures a bit by being more efficient. The bike is happier but the rider may not be unfortunately. That being said now that I insulated tupperware and wrapped the pipes I feel no heat at all.

From what I cans see, the thermostat goes wide open around 195 on the freeway so it only really has a big affect at idle. My digital aftermarket temp gauge shows idle temps around 227 at 45 deg. F. but then the fan kicks in and drops it down to 217 or so and the cycle repeats until I start moving again.

[Magdave]

It should not affect warranty but I would like to see the actual test data to support the claim. I use engine ice for two years and yes, it does drop the temperature as it allows the coolant to make better contact with the radiator so the air passing through picks up more heat. However, it actually raises the under tupperware temperatures a bit by being more efficient. The bike is happier but the rider may not be unfortunately. That being said now that I insulated tupperware and wrapped the pipes I feel no heat at all.

From what I cans see, the thermostat goes wide open around 195 on the freeway so it only really has a big affect at idle. My digital aftermarket temp gauge shows idle temps around 227 at 45 deg. F. but then the fan kicks in and drops it down to 217 or so and the cycle repeats until I start moving again.

I wasn't thinking about the fan presets so the best we will see is 217 at rest unless we could program the fan to run longer. Bummer

[SpyderAnn01]

I wonder if it works for hot flashes!

[cuznjohn]

my dealer told me that BRP is using a new type of coolant in their 4x4's due to heating issues, but they have not said to put it in the bikes that have heat problems to try it out

[Spyder Tony]

Water Wetter is what I used in the 2013 ST with some success. Can't speak as to this product, but would like to give it a try if the bike overheats this Summer. This will be the first summer since the 2013 recall campaign, so I'm not sure if the bike will run cooler or not. I am at the dealership as we speak looking at the 2014 side panels on the ST that were obviously changed to address heat...but the panels appear to be real expensive.

[Magdave]

Water Wetter is what I used in the 2013 ST with some success. Can't speak as to this product, but would like to give it a try if the bike overheats this Summer. This will be the first summer since the 2013 recall campaign, so I'm not sure if the bike will run cooler or not. I am at the dealership as we speak looking at the 2014 side panels on the ST that were obviously changed to address heat...but the panels appear to be real expensive.

And they should be supplied to 2013 owners free of cost IMHO. Maybe even a similar set up for the RT's

[bluestratos]

Are the 2013 overheating or hot to ride? I thought it was the latter.

[Magdave]

Are the 2013 overheating or hot to ride? I thought it was the latter.

Both I have had overtemp codes pop. The change in panels indicate BRP knows they have an issue they changed nothing else. The 13 riders were the ones who found out...the hard way.

[Cruzr Joe]

I wonder if it works for hot flashes!

No comment

Cruzr Joe

[SNOOPY]

No comment

Cruzr Joe

I was trying to think of something too.

[SNOOPY]

Water Wetter is what I used in the 2013 ST with some success. Can't speak as to this product, but would like to give it a try if the bike overheats this Summer. This will be the first summer since the 2013 recall campaign, so I'm not sure if the bike will run cooler or not. I am at the dealership as we speak looking at the 2014 side panels on the ST that were obviously changed to address heat...but the panels appear to be real expensive.

Do you actually know about how much for the necessary panels/connections?

[bscrive]

Who carries this antifreeze? I have to change my wife's coolant in her 09 GS this year and maybe I will put that in if I can find it. I go over to the US a lot so getting from a US retailer is not a problem.

[wyliec]

Who carries this antifreeze? I have to change my wife's coolant in her 09 GS this year and maybe I will put that in if I can find it. I go over to the US a lot so getting from a US retailer is not a problem.

If you go here and click on distributors:

http://www.liquidperformance.com

They list a Canadian store- Parts Canada- along with a number of US stores, and online stores.

If you're not familiar with the Parts Canada stores, you can check their locations here:

http://www.partscanada.com/locator

[cuznjohn]

some people were having problems with the radiator plugs breaking off, so remember to drain the bike from the hose

[Magdave]

Who carries this antifreeze? I have to change my wife's coolant in her 09 GS this year and maybe I will put that in if I can find it. I go over to the US a lot so getting from a US retailer is not a problem.

https://www.google.com/search?q=liqu...tartPage=1&rlz=

[Magdave]

Do you actually know about how much for the necessary panels/connections?

IIRC ~$800 you have to buy 2 panels for each side.

Here is a post on the part#s

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...ght=2014+panel

~$179 for each panel
http://parts.spyder.brp.com/Index.as..._id=1&siteid=1

[finless]

Hey Ron...... You and Scotty here get all my attention when I see you guys post even if you guys disagree...
So anything you post like this gets my consideration!

When it comes time to flush my coolant system I will consider this

Thanks,
Bob

[SNOOPY]

some people were having problems with the radiator plugs breaking off, so remember to drain the bike from the hose

Can you elaborate, haven't read about this?

[Magdave]

Can you elaborate, haven't read about this?

I have heard it before and the recommended way is to remove the lower hose.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...tor+drain+plug

[SNOOPY]

IIRC ~$800 you have to buy 2 panels for each side.

Here is a post on the part#s

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...ght=2014+panel

~$179 for each panel
http://parts.spyder.brp.com/Index.as..._id=1&siteid=1

These links don't go to specific parts. I've sesn people post these links before....they get you to the general area....and I appreciate that...but what exact part numbers do I need to make this work?

In the link it says four panels, but which four panels for a ST-S?