Just so you 2014 buyers know

[Magdave]

..there will be a Catalytic Convertor on the 2014 . All models prior to that do not have one they have a "primary muffler" or " resonator". Good luck with the heat from that. Another good reason to have a 2013

[cuznjohn]

are you sure because they sell cat by passes and cat heat shields for the 13's

[Dragonrider]

My 2010 does not have one, because I removed it….

[Yfactor]

[mxz600]

..there will be a Catalytic Convertor on the 2014 . All models prior to that do not have one they have a "primary muffler" or " resonator". Good luck with the heat from that. Another good reason to have a 2013

All Spyders with stock exhaust has a catalytic converter.

Are you saying the 2014's have a separate cat and it's no longer built into the muffler?

[mxz600]

I dunno where you got your information but my 2010-2012 service manual shows a Cat, my 2010 has a Cat and my 2012 has a Cat

I prefer ski-doo over cat.

[Bob Denman]

The original GS/RS models had the catalytic converter built into the muffler; the RT has always had a separate one.
Starting In 2013; ALL bikes went to the 991 series engine, (The RT mill), and had external cats...
2014: no change; other than the addition of the new big triple.

[Chupaca]

we have maybe two joe public views on the 2014 not enough to tell. Very short rydes in cooler weather, we have a long way to go before we can pass judgement and speculation helps no one...!!

[Magdave]

Better check again there is no Cat show some proof if you believe it. Has anyone ever cut one in half? Just reporting what my dealer told me. Show me a part # for a cat.

[CurtG]

I not certain but I don't think there are many bikes out there that don't have a cat somewhere in the exhaust chain. Hells bells even the wife's Ural has cats on both sides. One of the many necessary "improvements" on the 1939 design. Frankly if congress wants to leave part of the "guvment" shut down they can start with the EPA. Back to biking.

Ride and ride safe,

[Magdave]

The primary exhaust muffler is a catalytic convertor.

That's what I thought too but my dealer tells me different he wouldn't lie to me would he? He says it is just a muffler.

[Magdave]

Dave, look on page 165 of your owner's manual

I have seen it mentioned, that does not make it so. Maybe BRP is lying?

Seen plenty of Harleys running around this " Bike Week" around here with straight pipes. Where is their cat?

[cuznjohn]

I have seen it mentioned, that does not make it so. Maybe BRP is lying?

Seen plenty of Harleys running around this " Bike Week" around here with straight pipes. Where is their cat?

they most likely fell off

[Bob Denman]

What's The rarest Harley of all?
The one with it's original exhaust sytem still intact and on the bike!

[CurtG]

The Ural gang refer them as runaway cats. Open the door they get out and just never come home.

Ride and ride safe,

[boborgera]

I have seen it mentioned, that does not make it so. Maybe BRP is lying?

Seen plenty of Harleys running around this " Bike Week" around here with straight pipes. Where is their cat?

Don't know were their cat is, But mine is in the loft in my barn....

[boborgera]

What's The rarest Harley of all?
The one with it's original exhaust sytem still intact and on the bike!

I'm 50% on that. One will stay on...

[StanProff]

they most likely fell off

[rabtech]

That's what I thought too but my dealer tells me different he wouldn't lie to me would he? He says it is just a muffler.

He may not have thought he was telling a story but he was.

Sent from my Galaxy S3. I may have made a spelling error or may have some grammer issues. My fingers are way to big to type on this tiny screen!

[Bob Denman]

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Don't know were their cat is, But mine is in the loft in my barn....

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[rabtech]

Here u go. I knew I had the picture. This would be the inside of the catalytic converter of a 2013 ST limited. It didn't have that flat spot on it till a hammer got ahold of it.




Sent from my Galaxy S3. I may have made a spelling error or may have some grammer issues. My fingers are way to big to type on this tiny screen!

[ARtraveler]

we have maybe two joe public views on the 2014 not enough to tell. Very short rydes in cooler weather, we have a long way to go before we can pass judgement and speculation helps no one...!!

and can stay out of trouble by not saying it. Thanks.

[mxz600]

What's The rarest Harley of all?
The one with it's original exhaust sytem still intact and on the bike!

A picture of my exHarley with original exhaust.

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[Bob Ledford]

That's what I thought too but my dealer tells me different he wouldn't lie to me would he? He says it is just a muffler.

magdave:

I doubt that your dealer would knowingly lie to you. But there is always the chance that he is slightly out of touch. Like on another planet or was one of those that when the brains were passed out, thought they said "planes or trains" and stepped out of the line!........

[Magdave]

Here u go. I knew I had the picture. This would be the inside of the catalytic converter of a 2013 ST limited. It didn't have that flat spot on it till a hammer got ahold of it.




Sent from my Galaxy S3. I may have made a spelling error or may have some grammer issues. My fingers are way to big to type on this tiny screen!

Dang you just had to post proof so much for my Conspiracy theory.......