Guess RS crowd doesn't rate

[billrob71]

I love my RSS but a faster more sport like ride I think is what were talking about toning down the VSS system so it can be riden like a sport bike, accelerating out of a turn and cracking the throttle and have nanny kick in when the computer think the bike is out of sorts. Maybe the dealer too tweak the system a little.

[otter28169]

I am not dissatisfied with my RS-S. I just hate to see the model ignored. And I agree with the price problem mentioned earlier. How Many sport bikes do you see on the street that cost $18,000. There may be a lot of RT's around, but I personally do not want one. If BRP wants to sell more of the RS models they need to make them appeal to the younger riders. That is a very large part of the market that the spyder does not currently appeal to. It is also the demographic that is going to be the future of the RT crowd What I am seeing here is an opening for another company to come in and find a niche in the market Can Am created.

Just sayin'............

[Derek Paisley]

Agreed. I certainly am satisfied with my RSS.
As others (including myself) have noted, focus (as of late) is not towards the RS/RSS lineup and improvement (based on RS/RSS rider feedback). It is based on revenue.

BRP's revenue (roadster) primarily comes from the touring demographic.

Of course those of you who ride or are looking to ride that model/s (Touring) are more than happy.

Why wouldn't you be? You're being looked after.

[Littlebadwolf]

I've spent over 3 years adding farkles to make my 09 GS the ride I want...It's never let me down, have everything possibly made regarding add-ons and it runs like a dream....Nothing about the 2014's excites me with the exception of the additional miles between fill ups...Maybe I'll transition to one of the ST's or RT's but it's not calling me at the moment...I love my ride....

[Derek Paisley]

I am not dissatisfied with my RS-S. I just hate to see the model ignored. And I agree with the price problem mentioned earlier. How Many sport bikes do you see on the street that cost $18,000. There may be a lot of RT's around, but I personally do not want one. If BRP wants to sell more of the RS models they need to make them appeal to the younger riders. That is a very large part of the market that the spyder does not currently appeal to. It is also the demographic that is going to be the future of the RT crowd What I am seeing here is an opening for another company to come in and find a niche in the market Can Am created.

Just sayin'............

Very well said.

The Can-am Spyder is becoming synonymous with "the Mature demographic".

Here's hoping the faith shown towards BRP R&D will come to fruition as it pertains to the RS/RSS.

[flaggerphil]

For sure it was needed in the RT. The RS is the sport version of the Spyder, most sportbikes are 600cc with some 1000cc and a few 1300cc. The RS already has the upper end size wise. There are no true touring bikes that are 998cc. Even 1300cc is on the small size.

Indeed.

My last two wheeler was a Yamaha V-Star 1300T...and lot of people considered it a "small" bike.

[flaggerphil]

I too think that the RS-S should have gotten the larger motor, Its the sportbike variant, it's supposed to be the most powerful, quickest bike in the lineup. I Can see why the RT with all its extra bloat needs the larger motor, but they should have just done an upgrade all across the board.

To me, it's pretty obvious why they went with the RT first. Who knows, an upgrade to the GS's and ST's could be coming up in the near future.

[flaggerphil]

WOW HOW UGLY CAN YOU GET, IT WOULD MAKE ANYTHING, MOTORCYCLE, CAR , BOAT, SPYDER ANYTHING WITH AN ENGINE LOOK TERRIBLE! IF IT DON'T HAVE THE LOOKS, WHO CARES IF IT COOKS!!! I HAVE A 2013 ST WITH THE K&N FILTER, POWER COMMANDER, SHOT GUNNER EXHAUST AND IT DYNOED AT 110 HP AND IT HAS THE LOOKS, I WILL GLADLY GIVE UP 30+ MORE HP THAN PUT THAT UGLY TURBO SYSTEM ON MY SPYDER. I HAVE A GRAND NATIONAL WITH STAGE 2 MOTOR AND BIG TURBO AND IT HAS CLASS AND LOOKS GOOD, PUTS OUT 747 REAR WHEEL HP. I GUESS IF POWER IS ALL YOU CARE ABOUT THEN BY ALL MEANS MAKE YOUR SPYDER UGLY.

Why are you yelling?

[Dan McNally]

Agreed. I certainly am satisfied with my RSS.
. . . Of course those of you who ride or are looking to ride that model/s (Touring) are more than happy. Why wouldn't you be? You're being looked after.

We are? Are they giving me a new 2014 RT to replace my 2013 RT? No one is being "looked after" more than anyone else who currently owns a Spyder. Folks in the market for a new Spyder RT are looking at close to $30,000 for the pleasure. How do you feel that "those of you who ride . . . that model . . . (Touring) are more than happy"? Your logic escapes me.

[Kratos]

K,
So you're crossing over to, "The Dark Side"??

Welcome to the PARTEEE!

Been planning on it since I sold Knight. But I decided to wait on the 14's announcement just in case there was a change......and boy am I glad I waited.

[dguisinger]

While many sport bikes have 1000cc engines and smaller, they also don't have a 700lb curb weight.
The RS-S needs a larger engine (option) for people who want real sports performance.

That said, I find this interesting.
BRP launched a new SeaDoo (The Spark) with the Rotax 990 in it...
And then launched a updated Spyder RT with an inline 3-cyl Rotax 1330....

The 1330 inline is what is in my current SeaDoo...
They also reduced the price of the RS,while introducing the cheaper SeaDoo Spark

This leads me to believe:
1) They are trying to maximize re-use of components across their entire product line and
2) Get their pricing down a bit on the low end

I love my RS-S even though its been in the shop for transmission issues 3 times in the last month (ARGGG), but even I feel like it costs way too much for what it is...

[bill pitman]

Nothing here that would make me spring for a new model. Last year the RS HP was reduced by 8.

And premium fuel needed,
I'm happy with my '09 GS SM5,


Bill

[Kratos]

Premium fuel works better.....but it's not needed.

[Smokinspyder]

I wouldn't be to worried about it... It just gives us another year or two to put some miles on the reliable equipment that we already have.
Let the RT peeps work out all the bugs for us....

yea I am with that one !

[Dochands]

Otter I could not agree more. I can only hope BMW or someone else does a three wheeler that is sleek and powerful. I suspect 2014 is the tombstone before they bury the RS.

[DrewNJ]

While many sport bikes have 1000cc engines and smaller, they also don't have a 700lb curb weight.
The RS-S needs a larger engine (option) for people who want real sports performance.

That said, I find this interesting.
BRP launched a new SeaDoo (The Spark) with the Rotax 990 in it...
And then launched a updated Spyder RT with an inline 3-cyl Rotax 1330....

The 1330 inline is what is in my current SeaDoo...
They also reduced the price of the RS,while introducing the cheaper SeaDoo Spark

This leads me to believe:
1) They are trying to maximize re-use of components across their entire product line and
2) Get their pricing down a bit on the low end

I love my RS-S even though its been in the shop for transmission issues 3 times in the last month (ARGGG), but even I feel like it costs way too much for what it is...

Ummmm....no.

The new seadoo spark is NOT the rotax 990. It is an inline 900 ACE motor that has been in the sleds.
Also, Your seadoo does NOT have a 1330 ACE motor. If it's a 4 stroke it's a 1503 4tec and can be anywhere from 130-260hp depending on what it's in.... That 1503 motor has been around now since late 02' and has been a pretty solid powerplant.

Ironically, this is the first year that seadoo and skidoo have shared a motor configuration since the 2-stroke days, or early 2000's....and the first time ever that's it's been a 4 stroke that's been shared.

The spyder rotax v990 is shared with a handful of Aprilia motorcycles.

[Sarge707]

Ummmm....no.

The new seadoo spark is NOT the rotax 990. It is an inline 900 ACE motor that has been in the sleds.
Also, Your seadoo does NOT have a 1330 ACE motor. If it's a 4 stroke it's a 1503 4tec and can be anywhere from 130-260hp depending on what it's in.... That 1503 motor has been around now since late 02' and has been a pretty solid powerplant.

Ironically, this is the first year that seadoo and skidoo have shared a motor configuration since the 2-stroke days, or early 2000's....and the first time ever that's it's been a 4 stroke that's been shared.

The spyder rotax v990 is shared with a handful of Aprilia motorcycles.

BRP could up the HP on the 990 By numerous HP if they Feel like it?

[lookerjdc]

Otter I could not agree more. I can only hope BMW or someone else does a three wheeler that is sleek and powerful. I suspect 2014 is the tombstone before they bury the RS.

seriously?

do auto companies replace/upgrade every model of every car they make every year? no?

the RT was lacking certain things and they addressed that problem first

guess what comes next?

oh, and BMW and other companies do make trikes, but they are not approved for the US (yet), and, they cost around $90,000.00

the other models

[Oldmanzues]

Quote Spyderman60:I don't know how old you are bro, but this old fart here is 62!
LOL!! That comment was directed at otter28169!
62 huh? I only got three years on you, mate at 65.....
but hey, who's counting!! Keeping my knees in the breeze!
(Well, trying anyhow!!)

I am not sure where that puts me at 78. I know Dick is older, if he is still riding from Spyderfeast a year ago.
Oldmanzues