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    Default First case of boiling gas, first HEAT trip!

    Wow today was hot here is Socal. Not that hot compared to what some of you deal with in Texas and the south with 90% humidity.
    But today I got stuck in bad freeway traffic surrounded by hot trucks and cars with NO WIND to speak of.
    The temp gauge on the cluster read 116. I know that is not the truth and real ambient temp but that is the hottest I have ever seen the cluster read since I owned this RT since June 2013.

    Anyway first problem I had was at a light, I could NOT get it into neutral. That was one time only. I should have tried to roll it a little and try again but the light turned green. I will keep an eye on this issue as maybe the clutch fluid and cylinders new work (I have an SM5). I hope not with only 1800 miles on it (but it is a 2011 so age and break fluid matters!)

    But when I got home I did not smell gas at all but a bad exhaust stink. It went away pretty quick though. I am hoping I don't have a exhaust leak I will keep an eye on that too.

    BUT when I got my helmet off in the quite of the garage I could hear bubbling! I thought... WOA! Do I have boiling gas?
    Sure enough removing the cap the tank was under pretty good pressure and with the cap off I could see the gas bubbling. But I did NOT get noxious gas fumes or smell really. Not any more than you would taking off the gas cap normally! I think I should have just left the cap on as once I released the pressure it seemed to bubble more.

    I did not PANIC! After reading about all this gas boiling and paying attention to what Scotty said, I just let it calm down a bit and put the cap back on. I could still hear it bubbling and checked under the bike for any fuel drips. NONE! I removed the cap again and got the phsssss and it was still bubbling but much less... Put the cap back on and said the hell with it. Nothing to worry about based on my research on this issue (not just the spyder too). Went back out the garage about 1 hour later. NO GAS SMELL, NO DRIPS, all was good!

    So I guess my purge valve and evap canister is doing it's job!


    I will also say however that I am not sure the Spyder liked this heat trip. I could hear the engine and could tell the oil was thinned out due to temps. It just sounded "looser" if you know what I mean? I also got the dragons breath on BOTH FEET while sitting stopped on the black top freeway. When that fan came on WOW.... However, it did not melt my tennis shoes or anything like that. It was just hot and I dealt with it. It was really not all that bad. My head was hotter to be honest and I just wanted some air! If we could have just got moving a little all would have been fine with me and I am sure Darth (my Spyders name) would have liked that better too!

    Anyway... just my first experience with this and I have to say it really was uneventful because it was not a shock to me as I learned much here on SL what to expect! Sometimes if you don't know what to expect is when you get a surprise and a worry.

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    You might want to park outside for a little while after riding when you are worried about heat issues, so you don't end up with a fire in your garage.
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    Default here is my last reading of the ambient temp.

    here is my last reading of the ambient temp. it says 123
    but no hot gases yet
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    I found that 122 is the trigger temperature for Limp Mode and the heat codes P0127 and P0217. Finless, when you have trouble getting it into neutral try letting the clutch out a little and then try going for neutral again. I had that happen quite often actually on both of my Spyders. When the temp is really hot it makes it more frustrating when you can't get it into neutral.
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    Default Didn't know this...

    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01 View Post
    I found that 122 is the trigger temperature for Limp Mode and the heat codes P0127 and P0217.
    Wow...didn't know what the "magic number" was for going into Limp Mode was. I have hit Limp Mode due to heat a few times on really hot days here in Folsom Ca, but took the advice of the BRP rep and turned the machine on to cycle the coolant...limp mode clears after 20-30 secs once the coolant starts to circulate and the temps dissipate. BRP rep referred to this as "Heat Soak" as those who've experienced it already know. Gonna try Water Wetter this weekend as the Summer has been unseasonably hot and my temp gauge will hit 122 when in traffic on the way home...stop to get my son @ school (10 minutes), start up the bike...and Red Screen of Death!!!
    turn the bike on, cycle the coolant for 20-30 secs and voila...Red Screen of Death gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyder Tony View Post
    Wow...didn't know what the "magic number" was for going into Limp Mode was. I have hit Limp Mode due to heat a few times on really hot days here in Folsom Ca, but took the advice of the BRP rep and turned the machine on to cycle the coolant...limp mode clears after 20-30 secs once the coolant starts to circulate and the temps dissipate. BRP rep referred to this as "Heat Soak" as those who've experienced it already know. Gonna try Water Wetter this weekend as the Summer has been unseasonably hot and my temp gauge will hit 122 when in traffic on the way home...stop to get my son @ school (10 minutes), start up the bike...and Red Screen of Death!!!
    turn the bike on, cycle the coolant for 20-30 secs and voila...Red Screen of Death gone
    Watter Wetter won't help the air intake temperature. It only affects engine temps and is also of no value in addressing heat soak related (engine off or vehicle not moving) issues. It may help the radiator efficiency and efficiency of heat transfer from the engine to the cooling system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocRags View Post
    You might want to park outside for a little while after riding when you are worried about heat issues, so you don't end up with a fire in your garage.
    Funny, I havent had any issues. But do tend to park outside for a while...just in case
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