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    I see there are some cheap key transponder copying equipment on eBay. It's difficult to determine if they'll copy our keys though
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    Quote Originally Posted by ulflyer View Post
    Bob, Don't think he had to sit on it, but the key does have to be inserted in the lock while they do things with the computer and at some point the motor has to be run for 2 min.

    Was at the shop today and they marveled over the el cheapo I was using and how easy/quick it was to duplicate. Mech said he wished they had a duplicating machine as it would save him a lot time time.
    You can program up to four keys by using the master key PN#. 529-036-106 from BRP parts dept, cost is $30.00. Instructions are in the service Manuel, By sitting on your spyder.

    buds is not required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivanlee View Post
    You can program up to four keys by using the master key PN#. 529-036-106 from BRP parts dept, cost is $30.00. Instructions are in the service Manuel, By sitting on your spyder.

    buds is not required.
    I could not locate anything with that part number
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    Just picked up 2 keys. Now to find an inexpensive clone solution close to Knoxville

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARCTIC View Post
    I could not locate anything with that part number
    the part number is correct, try the part number without the dash #529036106

    the dealer might not want to sell you this master key. try other dealers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivanlee View Post
    the part number is correct, try the part number without the dash #529036106

    the dealer might not want to sell you this master key. try other dealers,
    I looked online at 4 different places and none of them show it as a valid part
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodMyers View Post
    Just picked up 2 keys. Now to find an inexpensive clone solution close to Knoxville

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    You might try a locksmith that can clone car keys and ask them to insert your OEM into their machine to see if it "reads" it. If so, then it will likely transfer the data to your new keys.

    Thats what happened to me when I went to a local hardware to get some shed keys made and have my spare Can Am key cut. The gentleman was curious and offered to give it a try. His machine read my OEM and transferred it to new key in about 10 secs.

    He said he would do them for $5 each. For local folks, the Hardware store is Laniers True Value on main st Lexington NC.

    PS: 24 Aug: Took a friend to Laniers saturday and they charged a whopping $1.00 for cutting, no charge for cloning!
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    The master key and part number is in my service manual but I also cant find it but only checked the 2 sites I know of.

    I have 2 transponder blank keys ready to be cloned and cut if anyone knows of a place in south west, OH. Could be further Im always up for a long ride.

    Heck I might just make a trip to that True Value in NC if I have to. Great roads down there!
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    Well, avoid the Ace Hardware on Clinton highway, Knoxville.

    They turned me away along sending me to a building that looked deserted.

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    I bought my key at lockpicks.com and was able to get it cloned at Yoders Hardware in Plain City Ohio

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwritesel View Post
    I bought my key at lockpicks.com and was able to get it cloned at Yoders Hardware in Plain City Ohio

    I just took a little road trip after work to Yoders True Value in Plain City... Another successful endeavor! 2 transponder key blanks cloned and cut for $3.42!

    Thanks for the info!
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    Bridges Hardware (True Value) was successful! $10 in Kings Mountain, NC. The Key is a little short, so it's difficult to push in and open frunk and raise seat, but it starts the spyder fine. It will also lock and open the trunk. I emailed Lockpicks and ask them if they had a longer one. Haven't heard from them yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pslawing View Post
    Bridges Hardware (True Value) was successful! $10 in Kings Mountain, NC. The Key is a little short, so it's difficult to push in and open frunk and raise seat, but it starts the spyder fine. It will also lock and open the trunk. I emailed Lockpicks and ask them if they had a longer one. Haven't heard from them yet.
    Most likely whoever cut the key didn't get it set just right in the machine. Only takes a "hair" off to produce what you have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ulflyer View Post
    Most likely whoever cut the key didn't get it set just right in the machine. Only takes a "hair" off to produce what you have.
    So can they recut it!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pslawing View Post
    So can they recut it!?
    If it has been cut too deep, no. If it has been cut shallow, maybe yes.

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    I have some additional information on the JMA ZD23RT5 key that I would like to pass on to everyone here.
    If your local hardware store has this brand of I-Key reader/programmer, it should work.
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    The JMA key scans as a Series 100 - 110 I-Key. Therefore, this particular machine is able to read and write to it. Here are the basic steps to clone or copy your Spyder key:
    • Insert the OEM key into the reader
    • Using the computer mouse, click on "read"
    • If the reader reads the key correctly, you can click on "next"

    The computer will tell you when to remove the key and insert blank key.
    • Insert the unprogrammed JMA key and click on "write"

    The computer will tell you if the writing process was successful or not.
    If successful, you will see a green screen telling you it succeeded in writing the code to the blank key.
    • When you have your key cut, make certain that the person cutting the key has it positioned properly in the cutting machine

    As stated previously by billybovine, if the key is not properly cut, (for example too shallow) there is a chance it can be repositioned in the machine and cut again. Otherwise, you will have to try again with another key.
    Some hardware stores may not want to cut the key because if not done correctly the first time, they won't have another identical key to replace it. Also, when making certain that the person cutting the key has it positioned properly, ask nicely. He or she is doing you a favor. You wouldn't want to upset them right before they cut it.
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    I noticed a sign on the do-it-yourself machine at Lowes home supply stores that they could clone keys with chips.
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    Some Wal-Mart super stores can program chip keys, but they are pretty expensive. My local store charges $24.95 to program the key and that does not include the key itself. If you get caught in a bind, I guess it's an option...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelhelp View Post
    I have been a locksmith for twenty plus years , we stopped doing auto work about 15 years ago when the transponders came out. Basically because of the software up dates . But If I thought it would be helpful I would dust of the old key machine and update the electronics bring some blanks to Spyderquest .
    I'm bringing two blanks to spyderquest. Are you going to bring your machine? How can I find you? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodMyers View Post
    Just picked up 2 keys. Now to find an inexpensive clone solution close to Knoxville

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    If you have the programmable blanks, a lot of locksmiths can clone them, THEY JUST DON'T KNOW IT!

    Your best option is to have a local automotive locksmith duplicate and clone your key onto the key blank. That way you keep possession of your key. Most automotive locksmiths have cloning devices since most cars use transponders these days. They may not know that their device will clone a Can-Am so just tell them it is a basic T5 chip that any cloning device will clone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivanlee View Post
    You can program up to four keys by using the master key PN#. 529-036-106 from BRP parts dept, cost is $30.00. Instructions are in the service Manuel, By sitting on your spyder.

    buds is not required.
    Could you post instructions on how to do this? Please
    I have a 2012 RT SE and it only came with 1 key.
    Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightmedic View Post
    Could you post instructions on how to do this? Please
    I have a 2012 RT SE and it only came with 1 key.
    Thanks in advance
    Instructions are in the service manual. Cloning would be a cheaper alternative for you. Going the route with the Master Key requires that you buy a Can-Am new key, get it cut, then either buy the Master Key or find someone to do the process for you. The clonable blanks are running about $7 at the place I ordered mine and I paid less than ten dollars to have the key cut and cloned.


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    All of this works and is applicable to pre-2014 models, but does anybody know what the difference in the key chip and/or transponders?

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    Hi Cliff,

    Re: The clonable blanks are running about $7 at the place I ordered mine and I paid less than ten dollars to have the key cut and cloned.

    How about some info you where you did what?

    1. Where did you buy the $7 key?

    2. Where did you have it cut & cloned?

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by KX5062 View Post
    All of this works and is applicable to pre-2014 models, but does anybody know what the difference in the key chip and/or transponders?
    The pre-2014s could be copied (cloned) into a key that carried a TP-05 chip
    The new ones use TP-12 Crypto chips
    I've got a keyblank, and a chip on order. Once they get here; I'll give them to my dealer, and see what kind of magic trick he can perform.
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