DIY Air Conditioning "Plausable"?

[finless]

So I have seen a few jokes about this (especially from Bob) but in reality I think this could be doable.

Imagine if you will....

Your riding jacket which is mesh to allow air in right now. But...... Suppose it has an attachment on the back for a hose. Kind of like a space suit. There is a small lightweight air conditioner somewhere that feeds cold air into the jacket and causes a positive pressure pushing hot air out of the mesh jacket.

I have no idea about BTU's etc... but it seems this could be done with todays tech in a small light weight unit efficient enough to provide upper body comfort on hot rides!

I am not joking here really.... It's just an idea and to see it ripped apart by those that know air conditioning and what it would take and if it would be at all feasible....

At work they call me an "idea man". Not all my ideas are good but just throwing this out there for a "what the hell".

Bob

[shelbydave]

...But when the cold dry air, meets the hot sweaty air, you'll get thunder showers in your jacket.

[ARtraveler]

Yes, it is plausable. I'm just going to sit back and watch this one.

[54spyder]

Check this out:

[finless]

Check this out:

Crap... someone stole my idea

Seriously it was an idea I had thought of myself today (due to a Bob joke) but it appears I was not the first


Bob

[finless]

OK so I went to the web site and checked it out. My idea is different. Seems they are pumping chilled water through the vest. My system would be cold air and the attachment to the jacket could be a retrofit to any jacket.

So my idea still stands

Bob

[TexasSpyder]

Check this out.

http://entrosys.com/

J. D.

[crossbowme]

In the 80's the Army tested such a system for helicopter pilots in combat aircraft. I was in the test and we walked around the flight line with such a system and then plugged into the aircraft when we strapped in. The Army eventually scrapped the idea due to cost, etc. However, I can tell you it worked well.

[finless]

Check this out.

http://entrosys.com/

J. D.

OK, OK.... but we can do better than this old "tech".

Some ideas:
1) It is retrofitable to any jacket or vest.
2) It is "wind" powered to the compressor! Why not use the energy we are creating when in motion! Yes I realize at long stops it will stop cooling but how long a stop?
3) The power generating windmill could be behind the radiator to power the compressor and maybe using the "can" design like a product already, divert the hot air?
4) Since we are talking an RT for me, it must have 2 up hoses.


More ideas?

Bob

[YPILOT]

Lets send some of that cold air to the throttle bodies.

[Dan McNally]

Lets send some of that cold air to the throttle bodies.

And under the seat on the 2013 RT!

[YPILOT]

And under the seat on the 2013 RT!

Cars have air conditioned seats so why not spyder seats ?

[shelbydave]

Actually, you can probably find a small 12V compressor - possibly the kind they use in the little coolers you plug into the cigarette lighter of the car. I don't know how cool it would be, but it seems that if it keeps soda at a nice 45 degrees, and is small enough to just fit a six pack, you may have the workings of a "cool suit"

[shelbydave]

...Or something like this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_cooling

[finless]

Actually, you can probably find a small 12V compressor - possibly the kind they use in the little coolers you plug into the cigarette lighter of the car. I don't know how cool it would be, but it seems that if it keeps soda at a nice 45 degrees, and is small enough to just fit a six pack, you may have the workings of a "cool suit"

If I am thinking the same as you, those are called Peltier "coolers". They use electricity and transistors to make a hot and cold side. They can only do so much like best case 20 degrees below ambient or so.

Here is info on them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_cooling


I don't think that will be good enough and they are highly inefficient by todays standards. They are usually used to thermo-cool chips that require cooling like a CCD Chip used in Astronomical cameras (I have a few of those My "other" hobby). They simply cannot handle large volume cooling requirements I am talking about.

However, thanks for throwing up IDEAS! This is what makes things happen!


Bob

[NancysToy]

Wet your T-shirt, don your mesh jacket, go fast. At the next gas stop, repeat. There is no reason to make this complicated or hard.

[1VENOM]

Wet your T-shirt, don your mesh jacket, go fast. At the next gas stop, repeat. There is no reason to make this complicated or hard.

I agree . Wet T's, except for those wide boddies, cover please. The more the T's are wet the better.

[Bob Denman]

Scotty,
Why'd you have to mention wet Tee-Shirts?
I'm not going to be able to concentrate at all in the office today!

[WV Spyder Ryder]

Scotty,
Why'd you have to mention wet Tee-Shirts?
I'm not going to be able to concentrate at all in the office today!

[Bob Denman]

And I don't DARE post any of the mental pictures that have already been conjured up! Lamont would stomp me into the ground...

[NancysToy]

Bob, you obviously neglected to read the part about putting on the mesh jacket over the t-shirt.

[Bob Denman]

Back to the AC units...
It's very do-able, and Dave is also working on a new Palace for Teddy that will have it...
You might just want to see what directin he's taking on it.

It would seem that if you could direct the unit's output to whatever location it was desired, (Rider, Passenger, body ductwork...); you'd have a very marketable item!