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    My dealer told me to put a cap full of gas treatment in my tank every other fillup. I bought Star Tron enzyme fuel treatment. The fellow at the auto parts store told me to use it every time.

    What do you use? Do you carry the bottle in your trunk? What do you think about carrying stuff like this on hot days?

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    Read post #13 and post #20 on the link below (post #'s are listed on upper-right of each post in the black margin.)

    This will, without a doubt, answer anyone's questions on fuel additives.

    http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...light=startron

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    Sta-bil brought out an ethanol treatment, and I use it every time I fill up. Spyders seem to be very sensitive to the ethanol, and it idles much better too!

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    I usually keep Stabil in the tank during the winter when I don't ride as much. Lately with filling up every other day I haven't both with either Stabile or the Startron. Gas isn't in there long enough to go south. Although with the high humidity we're experiencing I might just go back to adding one or the other. Providing of course they do keep the water in suspension like they claim. On the wife's Russian iron we use Marvel Mystery Oil at every fill up based on experienced Ural driver recommendations.

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    I use StarTron in every tank. Overkill? Maybe, but I'm OK with that.

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    RPMs on my RT were surging a bit. Added Startron and in a 15 min ride the motor smoothed right out. Got some on my hands which I rubbed by mistake on my scalp. Next day I HAD HAIR! My hands no longer had Arthritus! A week later my wife said I look ten years younger! It's a miracle!! Now I no longer need eyeglasses and I can play the violin, one handed!

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    on the gasoline you use and what state you live in. In most cases you don't need it at all. If you don't use the bike for long periods without starting it up a stabilizer to keep the gas from going bad may help although a full tank before storing should keep. Nevertheless most of the products can't hurt...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Some Guy View Post
    I use StarTron in every tank. Overkill? Maybe, but I'm OK with that.
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    I have used Star Tron for a year and a half - when home, 1 oz every three tanks or so. On trips, nearly every tank. Unless you can get non-alcohol gas I would highly recommend it to keep everything in suspension. I carry it in my saddlebag and have had no problems with the heat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyvermont View Post
    My dealer told me to put a cap full of gas treatment in my tank every other fillup. I bought Star Tron enzyme fuel treatment. The fellow at the auto parts store told me to use it every time.

    What do you use? Do you carry the bottle in your trunk? What do you think about carrying stuff like this on hot days?

    Thanks!

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    I use it & can tell a difference in warm weather. Would recommend buying on Amazon. Bigger bottle & third the price of Dealers. I Bought Small bottle from wally-world and Store on bike & refill from larger Bottle

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    What's the typical dose? 1oz per 10gal

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    Quote Originally Posted by AWEInCA View Post
    What's the typical dose? 1oz per 10gal
    initial dosage is 1oz for every 8 Gallons then 1 oz. for every 16 after that. i usually go every 2 fuel ups add some maybe half oz. give or take

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    SEAFOAM, check it out here, http://www.seafoamsales.com/sea-foam...tor-treatment/. I've had great success with this in small two, and four cylinder engines, marine engines too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ga Blue Knight View Post
    RPMs on my RT were surging a bit. Added Startron and in a 15 min ride the motor smoothed right out. Got some on my hands which I rubbed by mistake on my scalp. Next day I HAD HAIR! My hands no longer had Arthritus! A week later my wife said I look ten years younger! It's a miracle!! Now I no longer need eyeglasses and I can play the violin, one handed!
    +1 on the surging issue. Now I need to try it on my hair!
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    I bought a weed wacker and the directions say to use stabilt but the marine grade.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyvermont View Post
    My dealer told me to put a cap full of gas treatment in my tank every other fillup. I bought Star Tron enzyme fuel treatment. The fellow at the auto parts store told me to use it every time.

    What do you use? Do you carry the bottle in your trunk? What do you think about carrying stuff like this on hot days?

    Thanks!

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    I use stabil when I park the spyder for the winter. I have a 2008 SM5 and have had it since jan. 2009 and have never added anything during the riding season and use 87 octane and the spyder has always ran fine. Every now and then I try 93; the only difference I see is that it cost more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyliec View Post
    I use stabil when I park the spyder for the winter. I have a 2008 SM5 and have had it since jan. 2009 and have never added anything during the riding season and use 87 octane and the spyder has always ran fine. Every now and then I try 93; the only difference I see is that it cost more.

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    I use Stabil or Marine Stabil when storing (or riding less) in the winter. The remainder of the year I use nothing. Waste of time and money, IMO. If BRP had intended it to be done, it would say so in the manual. What the dealer says (and sells) is strictly his opinion...and may be of questionable motivation. JMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ga Blue Knight View Post
    RPMs on my RT were surging a bit. Added Startron and in a 15 min ride the motor smoothed right out. Got some on my hands which I rubbed by mistake on my scalp. Next day I HAD HAIR! My hands no longer had Arthritus! A week later my wife said I look ten years younger! It's a miracle!! Now I no longer need eyeglasses and I can play the violin, one handed!
    Seeing as you had that much luck by just rubbing it on, How much should I drink for faster and more complete results. Looking to stop using Viagra every four hours.

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    http://mystarbrite.com/startron/imag..._Gas_930XX.pdf
    95% Naptha, .5% organic compounds. I don't think there is anything really special about Startron. When adding a supplement, it depends on what you are trying to achieve. For injector cleaning, it's hard to beat Techron, or Redline SI-1. For stabilizing fuel for storage, Sta-Bil gets the nod. It has hindered phenols that are sacrificial, and degrade before the fuel it protects, same concept as sacrificial rods in water heaters to protect the tank. As a do it all, FP60 has a strong following, and is a proven product. As for me, I'm old school, using the tried and tested Marvel Mystery Oil, about an ounce, or 1.5 ounces per tank of fuel, to keep the injectors lubricated, coat the intake valve stem and back of the valve so deposits don't form, and protect the sending unit in the fuel tank. I think for the majority of riders, if you buy fuel at high volume stations, run an injector cleaner every once in a while (right before oil change time is about right), and use Sta-Bil for winter storage, you'll be just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyvermont View Post
    My dealer told me to put a cap full of gas treatment in my tank every other fillup. I bought Star Tron enzyme fuel treatment. The fellow at the auto parts store told me to use it every time.
    Quote Originally Posted by NancysToy View Post
    I use Stabil or Marine Stabil when storing (or riding less) in the winter. The remainder of the year I use nothing. Waste of time and money, IMO. If BRP had intended it to be done, it would say so in the manual. What the dealer says (and sells) is strictly his opinion...and may be of questionable motivation. JMHO
    With Scotty... sounds like a sales pitch to me! I only use Star Tron in the winter...
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    For a motorcycle driven often it makes sense to use Star Tron during the summer only if you are concerned about accumulated water in your tank due to condensation or other factors. Constant use of Star Tron will ensure any water is broken into tiny droplets that can pass through the fuel system and be harmlessly eliminated.

    In you live in a very humid area or near a large body of water this may be a concern. If you live in a warm, dry area I wouldn't worry. The only other way water could accumulate in your tank is if the gas station sold you some moisture contaminated fuel. This does happen from time to time but fortunately is relatively rare.

    It won't hurt to use Star Tron throughout the year but there may be little benefit. I use it every five tanks fills or so.

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    Thanks for the info been using it every tank think I'll use less now

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    I use Marine Stabil in ever time I fill the tank in all my cars, Spyders, and lawn equipment in the summer. In winter I use regular Stabil for storage. In the summer heat the gas can start to go bad in a week and in a Spyder, due to the high temp in the tank, start to go bad sooner. I read that in a RV magazine where they did testing equipment with gas tanks less 10 gal. It costs about 5 cents a gal. and for that price I don't take any chances. Also use 89+ octane gas. That's IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ga Blue Knight View Post
    RPMs on my RT were surging a bit. Added Startron and in a 15 min ride the motor smoothed right out. Got some on my hands which I rubbed by mistake on my scalp. Next day I HAD HAIR! My hands no longer had Arthritus! A week later my wife said I look ten years younger! It's a miracle!! Now I no longer need eyeglasses and I can play the violin, one handed!
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