Engine Locked

[serf]

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...Under-Warranty

Thanks, I was in a but of a hurry and didn't have the time to try to search for old threads on my phone. Just wanted to let the OP know that there was a bit more to the story. Not saying BRP didn't find a cop out, but there was a special circumstance.

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[OldCowboy]

So BRP told me that they still would not cover damages under warranty, Because i over rev the engine at 11000 rpms and caused the engine to over heat.

Doesn't the Spyder have a rev limiter??

[hackett43]

Doesn't the Spyder have a rev limiter??

You're correct it does, So if it did actually happen that means there factory rev limiter failed.

[Espionage]

About a year after I purchased my Acura, my o2 sensor went out. I was under warranty so took it in for service. They told me I had rev'd the engine to 9500. I asked how that was possible with the rev limiter and they said imust have missed a shift. Its pretty terrible how one second of high rpm can void your expensive vehicles warranty.

[hackett43]

About a year after I purchased my Acura, my o2 sensor went out. I was under warranty so took it in for service. They told me I had rev'd the engine to 9500. I asked how that was possible with the rev limiter and they said imust have missed a shift. Its pretty terrible how one second of high rpm can void your expensive vehicles warranty.

Did they repair under warranty ? My dealer told me that the only way to over rev is to miss shift(ONLY A SECOND OF OF HIGH RPM ) also but know way cause engine damage as it did to mine. Unless somehow the rev limiter mal functioned .

[Bob Denman]

Could one of those aftermarket controllers negate the ability of the rev-limiter to function properly?
If that's what happened; you blew it, Baby!

[hackett43]

Could one of those aftermarket controllers negate the ability of the rev-limiter to function properly?
If that's what happened; you blew it, Baby!

To my knowledge, The fuel controller only manages the amount of fuel to the bike. So out of all the Fuel Controller units that has been sold mine was possible the only one that could
have tricked the rev limiter to go out of range ? Also that 11000 rpm over rev on the buds report that BRP is referring to is only registered for a second.

[ARCTIC]

To my knowledge, The fuel controller only manages the amount of fuel to the bike. So out of all the Fuel Controller units that has been sold mine was possible the only one that could
have tricked the rev limiter to go out of range ? Also that 11000 rpm over rev on the buds report that BRP is referring to is only registered for a second.

What I want to know is.... how did BRP find out about the fuel controller?

[Bob Denman]

Good point!

[NancysToy]

What I want to know is.... how did BRP find out about the fuel controller?

You're kidding, right? If he tore into the Spyder and couldn't spy a Juice Box or Power Commander, and the associated wiring, I would worry about having a tech like that do my work. This isn't like replacing the eeprom in the ECM on your F-150.

[hackett43]

What I want to know is.... how did BRP find out about the fuel controller?

They asked my dealer what aftermarket parts were installed on my spyder and they told them. I wouldn't want them to lie
for me.

[Bob Denman]

I'm NOT saying that you did anything wrong...
But that bike would have had every non-original piece off of it before I would have even called the dealer...
...Or would that show a lack of my own moral fiber?

[hackett43]

I'm NOT saying that you did anything wrong...
But that bike would have had every non-original piece off of it before I would have even called the dealer...
...Or would that show a lack of my own moral fiber?

Looking back, Bob i agree with you.

[boborgera]

Just a question?
What type of Rev. limiter is on the Spyder, ie; A Soft limiter [fuel cut off]
Or an electronic [hard] cut off?? Or both, A soft limiter can conceivably be defeated by an fuel enhancer...

[Illinois Boy]

...that bike would have had every non-original piece off of it before I would have even called the dealer...
...Or would that show a lack of my own moral fiber?

You can be the judge of your own actions...

[DrewNJ]

It is a hard limiter IIRC. And no way is it possible that a less than 1 second 11k rpm mis-shift spike ALONE would cause that. There was something else going on.
The same motor is used in the RSV4 and and a good friend has his shift light set at 10k and the limiter at 11k. He runs the crap out of that bike too. Most of the aftermarket tunes for that motor use a 10.5k limiter and quite a few peeps run that.

IMHO Something was ugly in that motor before the 11k mis-shift.....

Good Luck though....BRP is kinda brutal once they make a decision.

[myronmathis]

I found out today that a timing chain broke during my ride which immediately shut the engine down. BRP is sending a new engine to the dealer to install on my 2011 RSS under the coverage of the warranty.

[hackett43]

I found out today that a timing chain broke during my ride which immediately shut the engine down. BRP is sending a new engine to the dealer to install on my 2011 RSS under the coverage of the warranty.

That's great, Glade to see you didn't have any issues with your warranty and you just followed the process. Hopefully you will be back on the road soon.

[myronmathis]

I went to check out the engine after they removed it and opened it up, the technician determined that a timing chain broke and it damaged a lot of stuff inside. one of the shafts was cracked and there was metal throughout the engine, what a mess just glad that it is covered and I will get a new engine.