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2013 spyder steering
I traded my 2011 rts on a 2013 limited the dealer has replaced the lower ball joints, tie rods,tie rod ends and aligned the front end under recall from brp.the steering is still squirmy wish I had my 2011 back any ideas?
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Originally Posted by shreck
I traded my 2011 rts on a 2013 limited the dealer has replaced the lower ball joints, tie rods,tie rod ends and aligned the front end under recall from brp.the steering is still squirmy wish I had my 2011 back any ideas?
test drive another 2013.... If it does not do the same thing... Ask dealer to FIX YOURS.
if it does act similar to yours... Perhaps it's something you are doing...
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Thinks out loud
Call BRP. Explain your problem. They will most likely assign you a case number. Then they will be in the loop. They want this problem solved as bad as you, and, in their rear view mirror. fwiw
Identify what you have control over and find peace with what you don't.
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I picked up my new 2013 RSS last Wednesday and have had similar results. Fortunately I kept my 2011 and am still riding it. I was excited about all the good reports on the '13 when they first came out now I wish I would have just stuck with my 2011.....My 11 has Wilbur Shocks on it. I didnt expect the Fox Shocks to be as good but this thing is like riding a wet noodle......I am Not happy to say the least. My 2011 has 34K miles on it and going on 2nd week the 13 has under 70 miles. Its 20 miles one way to the dealer and I guess I need to take it back and let them look at it instead of walking buy it and getting on the 2011 that I was supposed to be selling.
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Originally Posted by pushrod243
I picked up my new 2013 RSS last Wednesday and have had similar results. Fortunately I kept my 2011 and am still riding it. I was excited about all the good reports on the '13 when they first came out now I wish I would have just stuck with my 2011.....My 11 has Wilbur Shocks on it. I didnt expect the Fox Shocks to be as good but this thing is like riding a wet noodle......I am Not happy to say the least. My 2011 has 34K miles on it and going on 2nd week the 13 has under 70 miles. Its 20 miles one way to the dealer and I guess I need to take it back and let them look at it instead of walking buy it and getting on the 2011 that I was supposed to be selling.
I had no idea you got a new one, John. I'll stop by the shop, "Scooters", to compare notes.
Chris
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My 2011 is in the shop and I have a loaner 2013. I certainly notice a difference in the steering. It seems that it is difference depends on the road. It seems to be that the 2013 is very sensitive to the grooves and crown in the road where my 2011 doesn't seem to be affected. Whether this is this loaner only or all 2013s, I cannot say!
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Motorbike Professor
Sensitivity to the grooves and crown is usually a sign of inadequate toe-in or low tire air pressure.
-Scotty
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Originally Posted by DaveNur
I have one: Sell it and get a Gold Wing Trike. They don't ever seem to have steering problems.
No... unless coming from the unit controlling it! Plus if you get a Gold Wing trike, it will not be warrantied by Honda, if you have a cheap trike kit you will feel every bump on the road and have a big behind.
Good luck with the issue. BRP is working on it so I am sure that you will find a happy outcome because many of us '13 owners had the issue either in a light matter or seriously wrong and it got resolved.
May all your encounters with the law begin with the words: "nice trike!".[/B]
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I have a 2013 Spyder STS and had all the problems you are referring to. I had the alignment done twice. The first one was with the old procedures so had to have it redone using the 2013 alignment procedures. then had the ball joints replaced still wasn't satisfied so I spent the 400 Bucks for the Fox racing Shock and Sway Bar Kit. Now I think it steers and handles like it should.
IMHO I think it should be a BRP Fix / issue. I felt from day one the front end was too mushy and fought with the dealer to do something! I got all the "Quit gorilla Gripping" and "just Relax" From the SM. ButI had an RSS before so I knew this wasn't it. So for me it was a lot less hassle to Bite the Bullet and spend the 400 Bucks then to keep fighting with my dealer.
I had the 2012 RSS and loved the way it handled, so that was my reason for choosing the Fox Package. Im Not bashing BRP or my Dealer. I think I have one of the better dealers in FL. Route 1 Motor Sports. The Owner himself is a Master BRP Mechanic and has good people under him. I just choose to Ryde rather then keep taking it to the shop to see if they could find any thing to fix!
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I put 59,148 miles on my 2010 RTS in less than 3 years so I guess you could call me an experienced rider. I am having issues with my 2013 RTS and I was told that my Spyder was sent to the dealer after the ball joint fix was in place. The issue for me is in strong crosswinds at higher speeds, a condition that is just about situation normal here in Las Vegas. After being hit by a strong crosswind the front end nose dives then the front end veers from side to side. Kind of like when a tree is hit with a gust it leans over as long as the wind is hitting it and then it snaps back and forth when the force of the wind lets up. It is scary when it happens and it happens a lot. I have an appointment on Wednesday for my dealer to look at it and I will let you all know what I find out.
2017 F3T-SM6 Squared Away Mirror Wedgies & Alignment
2014 RTS-SM6 123,600 miles Sold 11/2017
2014 RTL-SE6 8,600 miles
2011 RTS-SM5 5,000 miles
2013 RTS-SM5 burned up with 13,200 miles in 13 weeks
2010 RTS-SM5 59,148 miles
2010 RT- 622
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Yeah, I'll definitely say it's not the Fox shocks (at least if they're working properly and not damaged, it's definitely not the Fox shocks).
I put a pair on my 2010 RS, they work great for what they are (better than stock, not as good as the Elkas-- but a LOT less expensive).
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Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01
I put 59,148 miles on my 2010 RTS in less than 3 years so I guess you could call me an experienced rider. I am having issues with my 2013 RTS and I was told that my Spyder was sent to the dealer after the ball joint fix was in place. The issue for me is in strong crosswinds at higher speeds, a condition that is just about situation normal here in Las Vegas. After being hit by a strong crosswind the front end nose dives then the front end veers from side to side. Kind of like when a tree is hit with a gust it leans over as long as the wind is hitting it and then it snaps back and forth when the force of the wind lets up. It is scary when it happens and it happens a lot. I have an appointment on Wednesday for my dealer to look at it and I will let you all know what I find out.
Please keep us posted. Watching with great interest.
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IT HAS BEEN A LONG, WONDERFUL, AND FUN RIDE.
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Please listen to Rabtech! He experienced much the same thing...and was ready to give up. They cured his Spyder and they can cure yours if they do it right and try hard enough. What you are experiencing is not normal, as you are aware. It has nothing to do with the difference between years, just that particular Spyder (and dealership).
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
2011 RT-622 trailer, Aspen Sentry popup camper, custom motorcycle trailer to pull behind the Spyder
Mutant Trikes Forever!
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I will call tomorrow and start a case. And any of you who know me know that I don't give up and that I don't let off (the throttle) so this is really not making me happy. I know how a Spyder should handle and I will not give up until mine handles correctly.
There have been a few other people that have reported the same issues as I am having and each of us is has a machine that was shipped with the new ball joints. Maybe it is our shocks.
2017 F3T-SM6 Squared Away Mirror Wedgies & Alignment
2014 RTS-SM6 123,600 miles Sold 11/2017
2014 RTL-SE6 8,600 miles
2011 RTS-SM5 5,000 miles
2013 RTS-SM5 burned up with 13,200 miles in 13 weeks
2010 RTS-SM5 59,148 miles
2010 RT- 622
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I can't believe what I'm reading here, I must have got lucky. I have a 2013 RS-S that handles fantastic, tracks straight as a arrow. I will admit though, that my wife and myself have only got 600 miles on it so far and this is my first time riding a motorcycle and/or spyder on the highway. (My wife used to ride motorcycle and she loves it too, so much so, she wants to buy another one, possibly the RT Limited....Also I just finally got around to checking the tire pressure with my dial gauge, it was 10 pounds in the front? so I rechecked it with the BRP one, it read 14 pounds front. 24 pounds rear.....Oh, have not had to ride in any storms yet. So... So far so good.
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Originally Posted by DaveNur
I have one: Sell it and get a Gold Wing Trike. They don't ever seem to have steering problems.
Now that is funny right there, no matter who you are. Goldwing trikes don't have steering problems....first of all , you have to modify the steering to rake it 4.5 up to 6 degrees, in order to have a suitable steering. Secondly, Honda goldwings are famous for their front end wobble and cupping of front tires. I know this, as I have owned several Honda trikes, a Harley Triglide and now a 2013 RT Limited.
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Re: 2013 spyder steering
Originally Posted by diesel-dawg
Now that is funny right there, no matter who you are. Goldwing trikes don't have steering problems....first of all , you have to modify the steering to rake it 4.5 up to 6 degrees, in order to have a suitable steering. Secondly, Honda goldwings are famous for their front end wobble and cupping of front tires. I know this, as I have owned several Honda trikes, a Harley Triglide and now a 2013 RT Limited.
Yea. I read that and had to bite my lip. Goldwing bikes are almost perfect in every way. However when it comes to trikes it is a different issue. I have actually triked out Goldwing's with several differnet kits for people. I can tell you that if you dont rake it to at least 5 degrees you will wear yourself out. I have even installed a 8 degree custom tree. I actually havent had any bad luck with high speed trike front wheel shake but I can tell you they will feather and cup the tread a front tire.
At the end of a day on a Goldwing trike running at high speeds on twistie roads the rider is most likley going to be much more sore and tired than he or she would be on a properly setup spyder.
With that said, I think the person who posted that statement probably knew that it would draw us off topic and into a debate on trikes vs spyders. Sorry for diverting but I am weak and couldnt help myself.
Sent from my Galaxy S3. I may have made a spelling error or may have some grammer issues. My fingers are way to big to type on this tiny screen!
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Originally Posted by rabtech
Yea. I read that and had to bite my lip. Goldwing bikes are almost perfect in every way. However when it comes to trikes it is a different issue. I have actually triked out Goldwing's with several differnet kits for people. I can tell you that if you dont rake it to at least 5 degrees you will wear yourself out. I have even installed a 8 degree custom tree. I actually havent had any bad luck with high speed trike front wheel shake but I can tell you they will feather and cup the tread a front tire.
At the end of a day on a Goldwing trike running at high speeds on twistie roads the rider is most likley going to be much more sore and tired than he or she would be on a properly setup spyder.
With that said, I think the person who posted that statement probably knew that it would draw us off topic and into a debate on trikes vs spyders. Sorry for diverting but I am weak and couldnt help myself .
Sent from my Galaxy S3. I may have made a spelling error or may have some grammer issues. My fingers are way to big to type on this tiny screen!
Let's keep this thread on the subject at hand. There are several trikes vs. threads out there, or if you must--start a new thread on that subject.
Currently Owned: 2019 F3 Limited, 2020 F3 Limited: SOLD BOTH LIMITEDS in October of 2023.
Previously : 2008 GS-SM5 (silver), 2009 RS-SE5 (red), 2010 RT-S Premier Editon #474 (black) 2011 RT A&C SE5 (magnesium) 2014 RTS-SE6 (yellow)
MY FINAL TALLY: 7 Spyders, 15 years, 205,500 miles
IT HAS BEEN A LONG, WONDERFUL, AND FUN RIDE.
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Originally Posted by DaveNur
I wrote that after talking to Wing Trike owners who said they never had a problem with their machines. Not once did any of them mentioning having to "rake' the steering. One of the guys does do twisties on his trike and says it handles great. As for the Wing cupping tires and front end wobble, mine did that when new. Why? Because of the garbage tires the bike came stock with and improper balancing. Moving up the chain of good tires and having the new tire mounted and properly balanced correctly eliminated the wobble. Also, some cupping on front tires is normal. Nature of the beast.
Dave, you should google a wing trike site. Think you will learn much more than these trike owners shared with you. One rides twisties.....at what speeds? None mentioned rake mods....perhaps they have no need. fwiw
Identify what you have control over and find peace with what you don't.
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[QUOTE=HuckFin;629154]I can't believe what I'm reading here, I must have got lucky. I have a 2013 RS-S that handles fantastic, tracks straight as a arrow. I will admit though, that my wife and myself have only got 600 miles on it so far and this is my first time riding a motorcycle and/or spyder on the highway. (My wife used to ride motorcycle and she loves it too, so much so, she wants to buy another one, possibly the RT Limited....Also I just finally got around to checking the tire pressure with my dial gauge, it was 10 pounds in the front? so I rechecked it with the BRP one, it read 14 pounds front. 24 pounds rear.....Oh, have not had to ride in any storms yet. So... So far so good.[
The RS doesn't seem to have any issues mostly the RT
2017 F3T-SM6 Squared Away Mirror Wedgies & Alignment
2014 RTS-SM6 123,600 miles Sold 11/2017
2014 RTL-SE6 8,600 miles
2011 RTS-SM5 5,000 miles
2013 RTS-SM5 burned up with 13,200 miles in 13 weeks
2010 RTS-SM5 59,148 miles
2010 RT- 622
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