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    Quote Originally Posted by PrairieSpyder View Post
    Not biased? Pot . . Kettle! How about your data supporting your statement?
    Did you read too far into what I asked? I asked for articles, which you have provided. I'll give those articles a read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyliec View Post
    Did you read too far into what I asked? I asked for articles, which you have provided. I'll give those articles a read.
    Please do educate yourself. But I'm not going to discuss it further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruiser View Post
    I'm a strong supporter of gun ownership. I also support full background checks for conceal carry permits and gun ownership to include mental health checks. Part of my CC process was a mental health check. Gun ownership, in my view, includes long guns as well.
    I think we probably pretty much agree here then. I also think that part of gun ownership is the responsibility to keep them safe from the wrong people. Proper gun safes, biometrics, etc.

    Many of the recent shootings have been done by people who either were not qualified to own, or didn't own in the first place. Denying those people access should be a very high priority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelbydave View Post
    In my opinion, the same group of people who want to take guns away, are the same ones who have caused these problems with their idea of what "rights" are... 10 year old kids watching zombies getting shot in the head, music that talks about killing, rape, beating... Many of the same people will say.."It's just a movie" It's just a song", but when someone goes out and kills, "we need to get the guns off the streets!"

    We've gone way off the path, and need to fix the root of the problem, not just cover up the symptoms.


    I hope you're not blaming shows like "The Walking Dead" (my favorite show) and music (many of the groups messages are about saving yourself, not pushing you over the edge) as the culprit for excessive violence. That clearly is not the problem.

    What I think is responsible for todays violence is religion, cell phones, the internet and facebook. sort of....

    What I really think is, it all goes back to one simple thing that is sorely missing in modern society, responsible parenting. Parents have become very lazy at raising their children.
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    Bytemi:

    See what you started?

    These threads almost always turn out this way.

    Lamont... is it time to close this one down for now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mxz600 View Post
    What I really think is, it all goes back to one simple thing that is sorely missing in modern society, responsible parenting. Parents have become very lazy at raising their children.
    I won't argue that... but there is a lot to say for how society justifies peoples actions.. "He had a bad childhood." "He just went through a traumatic experience." So what??? There is such a thing as personal responsibility. If we got back to that fact on ALL levels (how we act, how we parent, etc...) many of these issues would dissolve through time.

    ...And you wouldn't have to restrict a single gun.

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