Its official: BajaRon's swaybar is a MUST have for all RT owners!

[Sarge707]

Here are a couple of comparison pictures of the BajaRon bar and stock.

Thanks! Those pictures really show the difference!!!

[bikeguy]

Cotton,
Which year RT do you have, and which shocks?

2010 RT with 2011 RT shocks still set on position 4 after another test run today.

Cotton

[spyderpoop]

is the sway bar the thing that looks like a shock or is it a horizontal or vertical bar thing on the bike up front not merchanically inclined as you see but would love to not have the feeling ya getting thrown off the bike on turns ? thanks Rich

[spyderpoop]

where do you get them and whats the cost

[eddieshep999]

where do you get them and whats the cost

Go to the home page and click on the BAJARON banner This will give you the details you need

{Note}

Ron informs me sales are good so be quick if you want to purchase from his current stock

Eddie Sheppard
Reading UK

[BajaRon]

is the sway bar the thing that looks like a shock or is it a horizontal or vertical bar thing on the bike up front not merchanically inclined as you see but would love to not have the feeling ya getting thrown off the bike on turns ? thanks Rich

This is the RS sway bar. The RT bar is very similar. The Sway Bar is not a shock, it's a straight spring or torsion bar. Doesn't look like much does it. But this little bar can do great things for your Spyder.

You don't have to tear your Spyder down like this to install the Sway Bar.

As stated by eddieshep999, you can always click on my banner ad on the Home Page here at Spyderlovers to get more information.


To purchase anything I carry simply PM me or email me at fyredad@hotmail.com Most make payment with Paypal but you can also mail payment. I can email you an invoice for Paypal which makes it very quick and easy. Either way works fine.

[Bob Denman]

2010 RT with 2011 RT shocks still set on position 4

Great minds must think alike... I'm running the EXACT same setup!

[bmwlarry]

I am going to get a set of stickers made to place on the leading rt and left edges of my RT.
bajarona.jpg

[Bob Denman]

If you do; please let us all know when they're available!

[eddieshep999]

I contacted Larry via PM with the following request Ref getting copies of his pictures to assist me

Although I could view his pictures In photobucket I could not copy them and save them
What I wanted to do was print them off - Place them in clear plastic folders so I could follow them step by step
They are as good as any Workshop manual I've seen

I asked if he could e mail me a copy of the set of pictures or create an Album with these pictures on the SpyderLovers Album gallery website so I could save them to my Computer for future use when my Swaybar arrives

Larry was kind enough to place the set of Photos in the Album Gallery

Here is the spyderlovers album
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/a...p?albumid=2506

I now have a set ready to use and this will give me the confidence to tackle the job

Thanks Larry and Bajaron

Eddie Sheppard

[BajaRon]

I contacted Larry via PM with the following request Ref getting copies of his pictures to assist me

Although I could view his pictures In photobucket I could not copy them and save them
What I wanted to do was print them off - Place them in clear plastic folders so I could follow them step by step
They are as good as any Workshop manual I've seen

I asked if he could e mail me a copy of the set of pictures or create an Album with these pictures on the SpyderLovers Album gallery website so I could save them to my Computer for future use when my Swaybar arrives

Larry was kind enough to place the set of Photos in the Album Gallery

Here is the spyderlovers album
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/a...p?albumid=2506

I now have a set ready to use and this will give me the confidence to tackle the job

Thanks Larry and Bajaron

Eddie Sheppard

Impressive photo set. Very nice job!

[liketoride2]

Has anyone had an opportunity to compare Ron's anti-sway bar with the Evoluzione anti-sway bar that was sold for a time shortly after the RT was introduced, and as far as I know is no longer produced? I have the Evoluzione bar and Works Performance shocks on my 2010 RT and have the impression that this resulted in a major improvement in handling over stock. But, since they were installed at the same time I do not know how much of the improvement is due to the bar and how much to the shocks. Perhaps the new bar would result in even more improvement. I wonder how the stiffness of the two bars compares.

Thanks if anyone has any experience with the two, or any info on diameter, stiffness, etc.

Mike
Idaho
www.rtwrder.net

[cjackg]

Has anyone had an opportunity to compare Ron's anti-sway bar with the Evoluzione anti-sway bar that was sold for a time shortly after the RT was introduced, and as far as I know is no longer produced? I have the Evoluzione bar and Works Performance shocks on my 2010 RT and have the impression that this resulted in a major improvement in handling over stock. But, since they were installed at the same time I do not know how much of the improvement is due to the bar and how much to the shocks. Perhaps the new bar would result in even more improvement. I wonder how the stiffness of the two bars compares.

Thanks if anyone has any experience with the two, or any info on diameter, stiffness, etc.

Mike
Idaho
www.rtwrder.net

From 12/18/12: Originally Posted by DR BuckSo what makes one sway bar better than another? Are they shaped differently, different tensile in the metal or what?
"Yes... here's a couple of hints.... BajaRon's new swaybar is exactly the same shape as the BRP oem bar, but it is a much larger diameter and therefore a much stiffer bar. By comparison, the Evolucione bar used on some earlier RTs was exactly the same diameter as oem but moved the connection holes at the end of the bar in an attempt to achieve a stiffer bar. If I had an Evo bar installed on an RT I would replace it immediately with Ron's new bar! Been there, Done That!"

but, if you live in the flatlands or hardly ever ride the twisties, you may never notice the difference. The new bar will be more noticeable in very aggressive riding.

Jack

[AR10T]

Is it recommended that the front end be realigned after installing the sway bar?

[NancysToy]

Is it recommended that the front end be realigned after installing the sway bar?

Not necessary. You don't need to adjust or align anything.

[liketoride2]

From 12/18/12: Originally Posted by DR BuckSo what makes one sway bar better than another? Are they shaped differently, different tensile in the metal or what?
"Yes... here's a couple of hints.... BajaRon's new swaybar is exactly the same shape as the BRP oem bar, but it is a much larger diameter and therefore a much stiffer bar. By comparison, the Evolucione bar used on some earlier RTs was exactly the same diameter as oem but moved the connection holes at the end of the bar in an attempt to achieve a stiffer bar. If I had an Evo bar installed on an RT I would replace it immediately with Ron's new bar! Been there, Done That!"

but, if you live in the flatlands or hardly ever ride the twisties, you may never notice the difference. The new bar will be more noticeable in very aggressive riding.

Jack

Thanks Jack. Info and input much appreciated.

Mike
Idaho
www.rtwrder.net

[BajaRon]

Thanks Jack. Info and input much appreciated.

Mike
Idaho
www.rtwrder.net

As Jack says, EVO simply shortened the sway bar arms to achieve a stiffer action. This moves the Heim Joint Link forward and out of the correct vertical orientation. This alone would not be so much of an issue except that there is very little clearance between the front of the Heim Joint Link and the A-Arm even with the longer OEM bar arm length.

I have been told that contact between the Heim Joint Link and the A-Arm can occur with the EVO bar. I have also been told that some joints have been damaged, though I have not heard of any Link failures. I have not verified these statements. I just put this out as information that you might want to look into if you have an EVO bar mounted.

It is easy to check and see if you are getting contact between your Heim Joint Links and the A-Arm. If you are running the EVO bar I would highly recommend doing this.

All of this is very obvious when you look at your Spyder.

Jack up your Spyder to where you can get under and take a good look at the bottom of the Heim Joint Links. Look closely at the area where the Link comes close to the A-Arm at the bottom. A flashlight may be helpful. If the paint on the A-Arm shows wear then you are getting contact. If this is the case then check your Heim Joint Links for cracks or other signs of damage.

Here is a picture, borrowed without permission... to show what I mean. Check for clearance and possible contact in the area of the GREEN Arrow. As you can see, even with the original bar there isn't a lot of room between the Heim Joint Link and the A-Arm. It doesn't take much to reduce this small amount of clearance to less than zero as your suspension articulates in cornering, etc.



I understand why EVO used this approach as it is the easiest and least expensive way to get a stiffer Sway Bar. But anytime you change something you have to consider potential issues that the change may create.

The original Sway Bar arm length, as designed by BRP, is optimal. This is a big reason why I stayed with that dimension. It is more expensive to change bar diameter but the results are much more rewarding and create no new issues. My RT sway bar is also stiffer than the EVO bar so you should still see a marked improvement if you decide to switch.

[Bob Denman]

Makes good sense to me.
Thanks for the thorough explanation!

[liketoride2]

Thanks Ron. I'll take a look at my bar as soon as I can and will very likely be a customer before our riding season starts next spring.

Mike
Idaho
www.rtwrider.net

[bmwlarry]

Well, here it is! I have elka shocks set to 22 clicks. I installed the bar and finally today I had a chance for a ride!!! WOW!!! The difference is dramatic. The first corner seemed to be much quicker and flatter on turn in. This will absolutely prove to be the best $200 I ever spent. I imagine the difference would be even more dramatic with oem shocks! I'm very glad we waited for all the R&D! Thanks ron!!!
larry

[Bob Denman]

You guys are just KILLING me!
I've got this beauty in my garage all unwrapped and begging to be added to the bike...
But I haven't got a clue or plan yet as to how!
And you're all happier than a bunch of clams in wet sand; and I can't join in the fun!

[AndyIsRiding]

From 12/18/12: Originally Posted by DR BuckSo what makes one sway bar better than another? Are they shaped differently, different tensile in the metal or what?
"Yes... here's a couple of hints.... BajaRon's new swaybar is exactly the same shape as the BRP oem bar, but it is a much larger diameter and therefore a much stiffer bar. By comparison, the Evolucione bar used on some earlier RTs was exactly the same diameter as oem but moved the connection holes at the end of the bar in an attempt to achieve a stiffer bar. If I had an Evo bar installed on an RT I would replace it immediately with Ron's new bar! Been there, Done That!"

but, if you live in the flatlands or hardly ever ride the twisties, you may never notice the difference. The new bar will be more noticeable in very aggressive riding.

Jack

The one I have on our RT is exactly the same shape as the one that came off, just a larger diameter.
Maybe they made 2 diff. versions?
My wife believes it was the best improvement we made.

[Yol Bolsun]

I realize that the decal will either be upside down, or not visible when mounted. Maybe I should attach them differently. But really, very few people are going to crawl up under a Spyder to see that sticker.

.

Ron: You just need to add a caveat on the sticker, "If you can read this, turn me over." Old 4WD bumper snicker.

[Bob Denman]

Made famous by Jeep CJ owners!

[BajaRon]

Made famous by Jeep CJ owners!