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    Default bigger front tire?????

    Has anyone put a 175/65/14 tire on the front????

    it calls for a 165/65/14

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    Quote Originally Posted by hecoon View Post
    Has anyone put a 175/65/14 tire on the front????

    it calls for a 165/65/14

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    185/60/14

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    YES, i have KUMHO 175/65R14's up front...
    they are gr8 tires... 1 problem however, they are discontinued, but you still can find them out there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPYD3R View Post
    YES, i have KUMHO 175/65R14's up front...
    they are gr8 tires... 1 problem however, they are discontinued, but you still can find them out there...
    http://www.kumhotireusa.com/tire/cat...A-2EF1777A6970
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    They still have them listed on tirerack.com 136.00 for the pair, plus shipping.

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    thanks guys

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    I plan to put 185/60/14's on my Spyder. Others have done this with success.

    Here is a great little tire comparrison calculator. http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

    Though size may vary from brand to brand (and even model to model) with the same size markings, this at least gives you some ball park figures to work with.

    Standard Size Comparrison.

    165/65/14 = Diameter - 22.4", Circumference - 70.5"
    175/65/14 = Diameter - 23.0", Circumference - 72.1"
    185/60/14 = Diameter - 22.7", Circumberence - 71.4"

    As you can see, the 185/60/14 is closer to stock Diameter/Circumference dimensions than the 175/65/14 and the 185 gives you more tread on the ground at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaRon View Post
    I plan to put 185/60/14's on my Spyder. Others have done this with success.

    Here is a great little tire comparrison calculator. http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

    Though size may vary from brand to brand (and even model to model) with the same size markings, this at least gives you some ball park figures to work with.

    Standard Size Comparrison.

    165/65/14 = Diameter - 22.4", Circumference - 70.5"
    175/65/14 = Diameter - 23.0", Circumference - 72.1"
    185/60/14 = Diameter - 22.7", Circumberence - 71.4"

    As you can see, the 185/60/14 is closer to stock Diameter/Circumference dimensions than the 175/65/14 and the 185 gives you more tread on the ground at the same time.
    Did the 185/60/14's fit okay under the stock fenders?

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    The 185-60's will fit but will be tight, I removed my fenders and elongated the holes in the brackets to move them out 1/4-3/8 ", which actually puts them directly in the middle of the tire, others have added washers between the bracket and fender to raise them up slightly.

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    Hi,

    I exchanged the original Kendas for the Toyo Proxes CF1 ==> 175/60-R14. The tyres are in use for approx. 17.000 miles now and look almost new. No significant signs of usage!

    From my experience I can recommend these tyres, but I don't know if these tyres are available in the US?!



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    Do these tire size changes show any affect to Nanny and her speed sensors?
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    If wider tires works on front wheels the better especially for stopping, the more contact surface between tires and road the better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa View Post
    Hi,

    I exchanged the original Kendas for the Toyo Proxes CF1 ==> 175/60-R14. The tyres are in use for approx. 17.000 miles now and look almost new. No significant signs of usage!

    From my experience I can recommend these tyres, but I don't know if these tyres are available in the US?!



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    That is a great tire choice (or Tyre as they say). The diameter is virtually the same as OEM, a bit more tread on the ground and the Toyo CF1 looks to be a very good tire. I do not believe that tire is available in the US.
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    These are 185-60-14 Michelin Exalta's, these fenders have been moved out 3/8", the tires line up with the center of the fender now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerpinoy View Post
    If wider tires works on front wheels the better especially for stopping, the more contact surface between tires and road the better
    I don't actually know if that's true...

    It's about pressurealso; the larger surface area will spread the bike's weight out and reduce the pounds per square inch on the ground...
    Or is it strictly a traction thing?
    Is there an engineer here who can tell me if I'm barking up the wrong tree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by capt.jim View Post
    These are 185-60-14 Michelin Exalta's, these fenders have been moved out 3/8", the tires line up with the center of the fender now.
    How did you go about moving the fenders out?
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    probably just an extra thick "washer" between the bracketry and fender... with longer bolts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaRon View Post
    How did you go about moving the fenders out?
    I elongated the holes in the brackets outward with a dremel tool. I also trimmed the bottom of the splash guard straight down, this made getting the tire in or out much easier without it hanging up on the tip of the guard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    I don't actually know if that's true...

    It's about pressurealso; the larger surface area will spread the bike's weight out and reduce the pounds per square inch on the ground...
    Or is it strictly a traction thing?
    Is there an engineer here who can tell me if I'm barking up the wrong tree?
    Also the half inch or less in the choices given would probably make little difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by capt.jim View Post
    I elongated the holes in the brackets outward with a dremel tool. I also trimmed the bottom of the splash guard straight down, this made getting the tire in or out much easier without it hanging up on the tip of the guard.
    Thanks, I will need to do mine soon and I know they won't fit with the stock setup.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    I don't actually know if that's true...

    It's about pressurealso; the larger surface area will spread the bike's weight out and reduce the pounds per square inch on the ground...
    Or is it strictly a traction thing?
    Is there an engineer here who can tell me if I'm barking up the wrong tree?
    I'm not a tire engineer and your theory has merrit on the surface. But if more pressure per square inch were the formula then dragsters would be running pizza cutters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaRon View Post
    I'm not a tire engineer and your theory has merrit on the surface. But if more pressure per square inch were the formula then dragsters would be running pizza cutters.
    In general, traction improves with more tire on the ground, but vehicles seem to have a point where increasing the contact area begins to reduce traction. This effect is enhanced by wet or snowy conditions. From what I have seen, the point at which it happens is at least partially dependent on the weight of the vehicle, the tread pattern (or lack thereof with a dragster), and the weather or road conditions. If it was a cut and dried thing, we would probably all run the same tire, with the same pressure, all the time. Each owner must find what works for him and the way he rides. BTW, I don't recommend the pizza cutters.
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    Those big boys also use traction-enhancing techniques and additives for their short runs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Those big boys also use traction-enhancing techniques and additives for their short runs...
    That's right, very sticky tires. I know from my winter experience back in Pennsylvania that a narrower tire gave better traction in the snow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Campverdefela View Post
    That's right, very sticky tires. I know from my winter experience back in Pennsylvania that a narrower tire gave better traction in the snow.
    In poor traction situations a wider tire acts like a ski. Snow, standing water and mud, for example. In these situations (except for packed snow) you want to get through the problem down to where traction exists, so narrower is better.

    Like Scotty says, each situation and combination of circumstances prescribes a certain 'Ideal' tire. The problem is, we don't usually have a rack full of different tires like a race team, and no one to swap them out every time the conditions warrant. So we select the tire that will do us the most good in the majority of situations we encounter. This always requires compromise.

    Then, hopefully, we are aware of the weaknesses of our chosen tire and ride accordingly when the tire is not optimal for that particular condition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaRon View Post
    In poor traction situations a wider tire acts like a ski. Snow, standing water and mud, for example. In these situations (except for packed snow) you want to get through the problem down to where traction exists, so narrower is better.

    Like Scotty says, each situation and combination of circumstances prescribes a certain 'Ideal' tire. The problem is, we don't usually have a rack full of different tires like a race team, and no one to swap them out every time the conditions warrant. So we select the tire that will do us the most good in the majority of situations we encounter. This always requires compromise.

    Then, hopefully, we are aware of the weaknesses of our chosen tire and ride accordingly when the tire is not optimal for that particular condition.
    Well said, Ron!
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    Since we're tlaking tires here; does anybody know of a 155 or 145 section width shoe that could work up front? I've been wondering if that might help Doc on his WFO runs at Bonneville...
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