The MOST unreliable POS I have ever owned

[Jeriatric]

They have 1 week till I go on vacation. Never drew a line in the sand before but I have now.

If they have a good spark chaser and allow him the time needed to shoot the problem. He'll find it.

[dave01]

Well, they are working on it at a quick pace. Pulled relays, checked wires, draw testing etc. Basically, everything they hav done before. You never know, it might just work.

[Wormie]

You may want to try an old trick we used on boats. Disconnect you negative battery cable connect test light to battery, connect other end of test light to negative cable. If there is a draw test light will light dim if it lights up disconnet one thing at a time until light goest out, when it goes out you found a draw it that circuit. Hope this helps.

Larry (wormie)

[BajaRon]

They have 1 week till I go on vacation. Never drew a line in the sand before but I have now.

My Brother-In-Law is in the Navy and he said he could fix your problem... He just needed the address of you dealership. I was sure you wouldn't mind.

He didn't say what he was going to do... Guess he's going to make a phone call or something.

He said to tell you not to worry about your Spyder anymore.... Everything will be taken care of shortly...

Please! Don't thank me! Just a good buddy lending a helping hand. Afterall, what are friends for!

Oh, and my B-I-L said you might want to look for a new dealership... Great guy but he says that strangest things...

[dave01]

My Brother-In-Law is in the Navy and he said he could fix your problem... He just needed the address of you dealership. I was sure you wouldn't mind.

He didn't say what he was going to do... Guess he's going to make a phone call or something.

He said to tell you not to worry about you Spyder anymore.... Everything will be taken care of shortly...

Please! Don't thank me! Just a good buddy lending a helping hand. Afterall, what are friends for!

Oh, and my B-I-L said you might want to look for a new dealership... Great guy but he says that strangest things...

That was great, Thank You Ron
Is he accurate? I live real close to the dealership. Maybe time to go to the mountains. LOL

[dave01]

Back to the dealership today. They sure do have a nice waiting room. Free coffee and many bikes to look over.

[docdoru]

Back to the dealership today. They sure do have a nice waiting room. Free coffee and many bikes to look over.

Look for Spyders only...

[dave01]

Look for Spyders only...

Doc, they have 3RTS, 2RSS and 1 RS right outside the waiting room. I have been sitting on all of them. HMMMMM, auto-shift sounds good.

[SPYD3R]

Electrical gremlins can be tough. They are very good at hiding from the tech and coming out as soon as you leave the shop. Here is what I'm afraid of. You sell it, taking a beating as you say, the guy takes it somewhere, they find the $3.00 gremlin and he's sailing home free! I've seen it happen!

You endure the misery, he reaps the benefits.

Again, here's hoping you get that sucker this time. We're all rooting for the good guys to win this one!

BINGO on that.... i gave my son-in-law my SEARS lawn tractor, because after ten years, it would nolonger start - DEAD AS ROAD KILL, as they say... i went out and bought a new JOHN DEERE, and my son-in-law comes back to me and said he found a burnt our fuse, replaced it for $0.40 and it runs like new.... i crawled all over that thing and never saw a fuse, but i guess my lose is his gain...

[chris56]

last winter my RT stood 5 month without a batterie tender .. startet without any problems .. what are you doing over there
29.000 kms now ...

greetings from Austria

[arntufun]

Hypotheticly speaking if this was not under waranty........

Couldn't this be cured easily if you installed a toggle switch off the battery and ran it up to the dash to mount it before power ever reached the harness ????? Sure your clock would never be right, but that the only downfall I see with this method.

[Arr MiHardies]

Hypotheticly speaking if this was not under waranty........

Couldn't this be cured easily if you installed a toggle switch off the battery and ran it up to the dash to mount it before power ever reached the harness ????? Sure your clock would never be right, but that the only downfall I see with this method.

Might not save the user settings either.

[Bob Denman]

And it shouldn't have to come to that anyway!

[dave01]

And it shouldn't have to come to that anyway!

Thank You Bob. I could not agree more.

[BajaRon]

Hypotheticly speaking if this was not under waranty........

Couldn't this be cured easily if you installed a toggle switch off the battery and ran it up to the dash to mount it before power ever reached the harness ????? Sure your clock would never be right, but that the only downfall I see with this method.

Not that easy, and really not the way to go after the problem.

You would need much more than just a simple toggle switch to carry the amperage required.You'd need a heavy duty relay that actually carried the load and the toggle switch would work the relay.

Bottom line is, there is something very wrong here and they just need to fix it. I'm sure it's a bear because, like I've said before, it's s gremlin hiding somewhere and there are a lot of places to hide. He only comes out when no one is looking. Gremilns would not be gremlins if they were stupid!

I'm rooting for BRP, the dealership and Dave on this one!

[arntufun]

Sorry guys, I should have been more clear about what I was trying to say.

I'm not saying Dave should do this, I was trying to say (Hypotheticly) if the Spyder was out of warranty and I had no money to keep sending it to the dealer I would install a toggle switch even if I needed a relay to make it work. I understand that he should not settle for this Goldburg fix since his Spyder is still covered under warranty. Sorry, if I confused anyone with what I was trying to say.

[OldDog]

Is every load on the battery fused? With the bike shut off, pull the fuses one at a time. Insert a suitable amp meter across the gap where each fuse is plugged in. If it shows a current draw, there's your problem.

[Blue Star]

Not that easy, and really not the way to go after the problem.

You would need much more than just a simple toggle switch to carry the amperage required.You'd need a heavy duty relay that actually carried the load and the toggle switch would work the relay.

Bottom line is, there is something very wrong here and they just need to fix it. I'm sure it's a bear because, like I've said before, it's s gremlin hiding somewhere and there are a lot of places to hide. He only comes out when no one is looking. Gremilns would not be gremlins if they were stupid!

I'm rooting for BRP, the dealership and Dave on this one!

Dave01,
You need a gremlin bell. If you PM me an address, I have one I will send you.

[NancysToy]

Sorry guys, I should have been more clear about what I was trying to say.

I'm not saying Dave should do this, I was trying to say (Hypotheticly) if the Spyder was out of warranty and I had no money to keep sending it to the dealer I would install a toggle switch even if I needed a relay to make it work. I understand that he should not settle for this Goldburg fix since his Spyder is still covered under warranty. Sorry, if I confused anyone with what I was trying to say.

What would really be needed would be a battery disconnect switch, like those required on race cars.



The RT has a certain amount of necessary parasitic loss, so it would not like a complete disconnect. It is best to find the cause of the excess parasitic loss or battery discharge, and cure it...not matter if it is on warranty or not.

[dave01]

Dave01,
You need a gremlin bell. If you PM me an address, I have one I will send you.

i HAVE ONE, mAYBE i NEED 2 OF THEM. lol

[dave01]

Is every load on the battery fused? With the bike shut off, pull the fuses one at a time. Insert a suitable amp meter across the gap where each fuse is plugged in. If it shows a current draw, there's your problem.

Been done. The big issue is it doesnt do it all of the time. Not sure if it is heat related, vibration related etc.

[OldDog]

Been done. The big issue is it doesnt do it all of the time. Not sure if it is heat related, vibration related etc.

Go back to the Car wash! Bear with me I'm just joking. I can certainly understand and appreciate your frustration. You have way more patience than I. Patience is a virtue. Have any wiring harnesses been disturbed in such a way that there could be insulation rub through?

[NancysToy]

Been done. The big issue is it doesnt do it all of the time. Not sure if it is heat related, vibration related etc.

I suspected that was the case. Pulling the fuse or relay may even clear the problem (like a sticking relay) and make it harder to locate. I think at this point replacing all the relays would be a good place to start, especially the load-shedding relay.

[Gordy]

Are they sure that your spyder isnt over charging,something is damaging your batterys and overcharging sure will

[dave01]

Are they sure that your spyder isnt over charging,something is damaging your batterys and overcharging sure will

It is supposed to be charging the correct amount. Lots of checking, re-checking of parts and I am not sure but I think I saw a crystal ball in the corner and they were all sitting around it at lunch.