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06-04-2012, 09:10 PM
#101
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by ClayL
I have a copy of the new maintenance schedule. If I can get to a scanner I will try to post it. Interesting.....it says it doesnt apply to bikes registered in California.Regards,Clay
Is it some place where we can pull it off the interent?
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06-04-2012, 10:25 PM
#102
New Maintenance Schedule - Have copy
Originally Posted by wyliec
Is it some place where we can pull it off the interent?
I have a paper copy....... havent noticed it out on the net......Clay
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06-05-2012, 07:36 PM
#103
New filters and 600 mile service
I took my 2012 RT Limited in for the 600 mile service today, well dropped it off and will get it back tomorrow.
Before I left the dealers service dept., they gave me a copy of the Repair Order, it did state that the New part #
oil filter will be installed, but, nothing listed on the Order to change/replace the HCM transmission filter, new or old part #'s.
I left my owner's manual in the frunk so they can make the proper dealer notations in the manual, so now I can't
check the maintenance schedule to see if they ARE or ARE NOT suppose to change out the HCM filter on this service!
Also, the service guy informed me of a SB#2012-6 Spyder RT inspection Possible water infiltration Radio Module (warranty)
Just to give all a heads up on this possible issue.
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06-05-2012, 08:11 PM
#104
Motorbike Professor
Originally Posted by 3leggedSpyder
I took my 2012 RT Limited in for the 600 mile service today, well dropped it off and will get it back tomorrow.
Before I left the dealers service dept., they gave me a copy of the Repair Order, it did state that the New part #
oil filter will be installed, but, nothing listed on the Order to change/replace the HCM transmission filter, new or old part #'s.
I left my owner's manual in the frunk so they can make the proper dealer notations in the manual, so now I can't
check the maintenance schedule to see if they ARE or ARE NOT suppose to change out the HCM filter on this service!
Also, the service guy informed me of a SB#2012-6 Spyder RT inspection Possible water infiltration Radio Module (warranty)
Just to give all a heads up on this possible issue.
The HCM filter is now supposed to be changed at every service interval. It previously was every other one, but that was changed by Service Bulletin. Your dealer doesn't seem to be on top of his game.
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
2011 RT-622 trailer, Aspen Sentry popup camper, custom motorcycle trailer to pull behind the Spyder
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06-05-2012, 10:24 PM
#105
Active Member
Originally Posted by NancysToy
The HCM filter is now supposed to be changed at every service interval. It previously was every other one, but that was changed by Service Bulletin. Your dealer doesn't seem to be on top of his game.
I'm a little puzzled by that. After all, the HCM filter gets the same oil as the oil filter so why would you change it every other one?
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06-05-2012, 10:33 PM
#106
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by NancysToy
The HCM filter is now supposed to be changed at every service interval. It previously was every other one, but that was changed by Service Bulletin. Your dealer doesn't seem to be on top of his game.
And I wonder if they've even bothered to pull the oil tank screen and clean it???
That one I do every other oil change....
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06-06-2012, 02:17 PM
#107
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by Firefly
And I wonder if they've even bothered to pull the oil tank screen and clean it???
That one I do every other oil change....
Did you ever find any thing in the oil tank screen?
Mike
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06-06-2012, 03:38 PM
#108
Originally Posted by MikeinGA
Did you ever find any thing in the oil tank screen?
Mike
I never did, But thats a good thing right?
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06-06-2012, 04:15 PM
#109
Active Member
Here's a link to a .jpg file in my Dropbox. There is a download button in the bottom right corner.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ebg0olol5...il_Filters.jpg
ken tompkins
Originally Posted by wyliec
Is it some place where we can pull it off the interent?
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06-06-2012, 04:17 PM
#110
Very Active Member
oil tank screen
The oil tank screen is there incase you accidently drop in something when topping up the oil.
2018 F3 LIMITED
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06-06-2012, 04:20 PM
#111
Motorbike Professor
Originally Posted by MikeinGA
Did you ever find any thing in the oil tank screen?
Mike
Yes!
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
2011 RT-622 trailer, Aspen Sentry popup camper, custom motorcycle trailer to pull behind the Spyder
Mutant Trikes Forever!
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06-06-2012, 05:40 PM
#112
NancysToy
Originally Posted by NancysToy
The HCM filter is now supposed to be changed at every service interval. It previously was every other one, but that was changed by Service Bulletin. Your dealer doesn't seem to be on top of his game.
Can you tell me where I can find and print out a copy of the Service Bulletin for this change.
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06-06-2012, 06:20 PM
#113
Motorbike Professor
Originally Posted by 3leggedSpyder
Can you tell me where I can find and print out a copy of the Service Bulletin for this change.
It is Service Bulletin 2010-1. I don't have a copy, but your dealer can pull it up using that number.
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
2011 RT-622 trailer, Aspen Sentry popup camper, custom motorcycle trailer to pull behind the Spyder
Mutant Trikes Forever!
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06-06-2012, 08:04 PM
#114
Very Active Member
Had my 665 gps installed today and decided to have them change the oil while up on the rack including the screen which i don't think had ever been checked. Very little debris on the screen, the two magnetic plugs had some debris on the nipples so they did there job nicely. Also had them pull the green air filter which was dry with some debris in it. Blew it out and was good to go.
THe new filters are backordered according to my tech and BRP is taking back any "obsolete" inventory. I had him install baja Rons filters and amsoil.
Rewaco RF-1 GT
Inline 4 cylinder Ford Zetec with multi-port fuel inject, 140 HP
0-60mph: 5.8 seconds
5 speed sync manual with reverse, mechanical dry clutch.
Front suspension: Trapezoidal fork with center spring
Rear suspension: Independent with Bilstein gas shock absorbers
Brake System: Grimeca calipers, linked ventilated discs, with booster
10.57 gallons
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06-06-2012, 08:14 PM
#115
Motorbike Professor
Originally Posted by spyder3
Had my 665 gps installed today and decided to have them change the oil while up on the rack including the screen which i don't think had ever been checked. Very little debris on the screen, the two magnetic plugs had some debris on the nipples so they did there job nicely. Also had them pull the green air filter which was dry with some debris in it. Blew it out and was good to go.
THe new filters are backordered according to my tech and BRP is taking back any "obsolete" inventory. I had him install baja Rons filters and amsoil.
If you have the aftermarket Green Filter (name brand) it is an oiled filter and is not supposed to be dry. You need to clean and oil it with the materials in their maintenance kit, just like a K&N. If it is an OEM filter, it is dry, but blowing it out can damage it...it is better to replace it.
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
2011 RT-622 trailer, Aspen Sentry popup camper, custom motorcycle trailer to pull behind the Spyder
Mutant Trikes Forever!
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06-06-2012, 08:30 PM
#116
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by NancysToy
If you have the aftermarket Green Filter (name brand) it is an oiled filter and is not supposed to be dry. You need to clean and oil it with the materials in their maintenance kit, just like a K&N. If it is an OEM filter, it is dry, but blowing it out can damage it...it is better to replace it.
Its the green high performance air filter scotty. I guessed it was going to be saturated with oil(i suspected my last oil change was overfilled) but was it wasn't. Bad choice of words using "dry". They didn't have the cleaner or the spray used for that filter and the kit i bought didn't arrive until after i got home today...but now that i see how to get it out, I will treat it with the proper materials. It only has 3k on it anyway. Thanks for the heads up of course.
Rewaco RF-1 GT
Inline 4 cylinder Ford Zetec with multi-port fuel inject, 140 HP
0-60mph: 5.8 seconds
5 speed sync manual with reverse, mechanical dry clutch.
Front suspension: Trapezoidal fork with center spring
Rear suspension: Independent with Bilstein gas shock absorbers
Brake System: Grimeca calipers, linked ventilated discs, with booster
10.57 gallons
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06-06-2012, 10:54 PM
#117
Active Member
Originally Posted by spyder3
Had my 665 gps installed today and decided to have them change the oil while up on the rack including the screen which i don't think had ever been checked. Very little debris on the screen, the two magnetic plugs had some debris on the nipples so they did there job nicely. Also had them pull the green air filter which was dry with some debris in it. Blew it out and was good to go.
THe new filters are backordered according to my tech and BRP is taking back any "obsolete" inventory. I had him install baja Rons filters and amsoil.
Weird. My dealership has them in stock since monday and they sent all the old stuff back.
Not sure about the oiled filters though. Supposedly some have said that the air running past it eventually pulls enough oil to screw up the MAF. IDK
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06-07-2012, 12:34 AM
#118
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Originally Posted by aklim
Weird. My dealership has them in stock since monday and they sent all the old stuff back.
Not sure about the oiled filters though. Supposedly some have said that the air running past it eventually pulls enough oil to screw up the MAF. IDK
Some people think if a little oil on the filter is good, a lot is better. If you oil them properly with the correct oil you'll be fine. I'd say you'll get less oil residue from this kind of air filter (properly done) than you will from an unfiltered crank case vent about 2" from the intake!
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06-07-2012, 06:27 AM
#119
Motorbike Professor
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
2011 RT-622 trailer, Aspen Sentry popup camper, custom motorcycle trailer to pull behind the Spyder
Mutant Trikes Forever!
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06-07-2012, 06:52 AM
#120
Very Active Member
cleaning the green performance filter
Rewaco RF-1 GT
Inline 4 cylinder Ford Zetec with multi-port fuel inject, 140 HP
0-60mph: 5.8 seconds
5 speed sync manual with reverse, mechanical dry clutch.
Front suspension: Trapezoidal fork with center spring
Rear suspension: Independent with Bilstein gas shock absorbers
Brake System: Grimeca calipers, linked ventilated discs, with booster
10.57 gallons
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06-07-2012, 08:39 AM
#121
Active Member
Originally Posted by NancysToy
A MAP sensor is not like an O2 sensor...a little oil won't hurt it.
I didn't tear it apart yet but that means we are speed density and not MAF?
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06-07-2012, 09:08 PM
#122
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by kentompkins
I was looking for what ClayL mentioned in post #100 and also what was asked in post #94.
Last edited by wyliec; 06-07-2012 at 09:10 PM.
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06-08-2012, 03:34 PM
#123
Photos of Filters
Picked up my new filter today. The filtering media is white rather than yellowish and the wire mesh is not just around the outside but goes in and around each fold of the filter media. Weighs 80% more than the old filter.new.jpgold and new.jpg
As I said in an earlier post, the old price was $15.49 and the new one lists for $19.99.
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06-08-2012, 04:33 PM
#124
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by MikeinGA
What about the other mainterance items other that the oil change? Is it still 3,000 6,000 9,000 and 12,000 miles or 4,600 9,200 13,800 and 18,400 miles for the all items including oil change?
I would like to see a periodic maintenanace schedule like the one in the manual. I would not want to lose my BRP warranty or my extended warranty. That's IMHO.
Mike
Has anyone been to their dealer yet for the new oil filter and asked the above question?
MikeinGa,
Have you found out anything?
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06-08-2012, 05:11 PM
#125
Active Member
Originally Posted by wyliec
Has anyone been to their dealer yet for the new oil filter and asked the above question?
MikeinGa,
Have you found out anything?
Yes I have. They don't know much about it other than what is here or that it is new and improved.
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