FYI- New filters and Maintenance Schedule for ALL Spyders

[redroC]

One of my dealers has received a stock of the new filters and HCM covers already. If you buy the new HCM filter, the first time you will also be supplied the new cover. This arrangement applies until May 2013.

I plan on picking up the new HCM filter and cover the next time I pass by the dealer. In the meantime I will use up my stock of old filters.

Did they mention any kind of price change?

Just curious.

[johnwinslow]

The older one says obsolete on it..

[aklim]

With a 2012, it should be standard now, right? Last time I changed it, it does look like the 35mm cap for the HCM.

[NorthStar]

Did they mention any kind of price change?

Just curious.

I don't think that there has been a noticeable price hike. The new filter price sounded vaguely familiar to what I paid for the filters I bought late last year.

[Mspiv]

My dealer says:

"They will be superceding the old numbers to the new ones so the new style will be the only ones we will be stocking."

[MikeinGA]

Thanks for the update Lamonster. The HMC larger filter is a good idea. With a good full synthetic oil, are they really needed? When I use up my supply of filters that I got from BajaRon, I hope he will have the new HMC filters in stock. That's IMHO.

Mike

[MikeinGA]

The engine oil filter is the same size and appears to be the same filter material. What is the difference?

The price?

[memphisdan]

Is this just for the 2012-11 Spyders or can we also use this filter and schedule for our older Spyders?

[Sarge707]

Theres Nothing Wrong with using up our old filters -- Its just that with the New Updated versions you will have
"BRP,s Blessing ?" to go 4,600 miles between changes.

[Dustybell]

Ha! Wouldn't you know it. I had my 3,000 mile service last Friday. I looked on the invoice and old part numbers. Oh, well.

[Lamonster]

The engine oil filter is the same size and appears to be the same filter material. What is the difference?

One thing for sure is the new filters have steel reinforcement.

[gln2]

Was at the dealer today to get the break pin installed, they didn't mention this but then again they didn't know about the pin recall either. Thanks for the heads up Lamont.

[bo9roadking]

I'm getting my 600 mile service done this weekend. The dealer says they don't have the new filters yet, so I'll be using the obsolete one at least for this service interval. At least the "obsolete" filter still works. Thanks for the info Lamonte.

[R.T. Smith]

Thanks for the info. How or where does a person find out this info? Does BRP send it out to everyone?

[gypsy_100]

Service 2012-11
There is a new Maintenance Schedule that was just released for all Spyders that change the valve inspection time from 10,000 miles to 14,000 miles.

The old spec was first at 6K miles and then every 12k thereafter (or 10,000km and 20,000km respectively). Not sure where you're coming from on the 10K and 14k mile numbers. Can you clarify? Thanks.

[Lamonster]

The old spec was first at 6K miles and then every 12k thereafter (or 10,000km and 20,000km respectively). Not sure where you're coming from on the 10K and 14k mile numbers. Can you clarify? Thanks.

You are correct, got my miles and K's mixed up.
Adjustment intervals can be increased to 22,500  km (14,000 mi) and eliminate the inspection at 10,000  km (6,000 mi).

[BajaRon]

No one has asked the obvious question here...

How does this effect Bajaron!!!

I didnt even know dealers sold filters

There are 3 possibilities...

1- It doesn't make that much difference (not likely)
2- It makes a big difference but I am able to sell my current stock (maybe)
3- I have a lifetime supply of filters I can use (engine) and many that I can't (trans)

I wonder if the Aprilia motorcycles that have been using the same engine filters since before the Spyder was built (Same engine - Same filter - SM5) is also changing to these new filters, or is it just our Spyder.

The Aprilia ran several years with an even smaller engine filter than what our Spyders use (the older ones still do) and they develop about 50 more HP than our Spyder with the same motor.

I think the larger transmission filter is a good move, but my feeling is the engine filter is not going to be a real world improvement. I will continue to run them in my Spyder.

[Firefly]

Just put my last oil filter on..... Will continue using Ron's filters for the foreseeable future. I run my engine pretty hard...so I'm sticking by the 3,000 mile rule.....about every 3 weeks for the next few months.


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[Schnauzer]

So now you'll need to add a thimblefull more oil to compensate for the 13mm more capacity. Amazing how the engineer developed this calculation from less than a 1/2 cup more oil to over 1600 miles. Guess they got bored trying to figure out an easier way to put air in the rear tire..

[aklim]

So now you'll need to add a thimblefull more oil to compensate for the 13mm more capacity. Amazing how the engineer developed this calculation from less than a 1/2 cup more oil to over 1600 miles. Guess they got bored trying to figure out an easier way to put air in the rear tire..

13mm is a length and not the surface area that has been increased. Larger surface area = larger filtration surface = longer lifespan.

[spyderyderjim]

Why doesn't BRP put "spin on" oil filters on engines in Spyder's? Every modern motorcycle engine has "spin on" oil filters that are very easy to change!!! BRP could offer a kit to convert to spin on oil filters. Jim

[Schnauzer]

13mm is a length and not the surface area that has been increased. Larger surface area = larger filtration surface = longer lifespan.

1"x3"=1/2 cup more oil...someone asked about additional capacity. I have the SM5, so not really sure how much fluid to fill the SE5 Tranny.

[AbNormy]

so is this new schedule really just to sell more bikes? don't know if I'd feel comfortable running blend, in Texas heat, after break in full synthetic would offer adequate protection.

[BajaRon]

I just bought 4 sets of the old filters and seals from Ron last month!

As far as I know, no one has had any issues with these HiFlo filters. The HiFlo transmission filter flows more oil than the OEM filter (though it won't flow as much as the new larger filter).

If BRP had not come out with new filters everyone would still be fat and happy with the current products.

It will be interesting to see if anyone sees an improvement with the larger transmission filter.

[arntufun]

Just put my last oil filter on..... Will continue using Ron's filters for the foreseeable future. I run my engine pretty hard...so I'm sticking by the 3,000 mile rule.....about every 3 weeks for the next few months.


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You better buy at least one filter from your dealer before may of 2013 to get that free cover, because after May 2013 I guessing it will be a $150.00 part.