Cops in Cuba......

[Trooper]

I've still yet to hear anyone give a good reason why 'texting' checkpoints would be any different than 'DUI' checkpoints......

So using the 'keep people safe' logic..... 'texting' checkpoints should be done also. Hand your phone over and let the cops see if you've been texting while driving. Anyone really think this would be okay to let the cops read your texts at a checkpoint?

The cop would never be able to prove in the court of law that you were actually texting while driving unless he caught you red handed. A sobriety check is pretty cut and dry. You are drunk behind the wheel or your not.

I understand your point, but it would never work.

[Firefly]

The cop would never be able to prove in the court of law that you were actually texting while driving unless he caught you red handed. A sobriety check is pretty cut and dry. You are drunk behind the wheel or your not.

I understand your point, but it would never work.

Probably wouldn't work... but if they had say had 'Point A' where you just drive by and a cop records your time... and then a 'Point B' where another one stops you and checks your phone.... if you're alone in the car and texted between the points.... busted.

Just an example of course.

I did hear that some of the state cops were actually pretty nice to 'out of towners' ......

[Trooper]

Probably wouldn't work... but if they had say had 'Point A' where you just drive by and a cop records your time... and then a 'Point B' where another one stops you and checks your phone.... if you're alone in the car and texted between the points.... busted.

Just an example of course.

I did hear that some of the state cops were actually pretty nice to 'out of towners' ......

It could be possible, but with a good lawyer you can probably get off even with that. Around my neck of the woods, hands free devices are still legal, and it would be up to the cop to prove to the judge without the shadow of a doubt that you were on the phone at the time illegally.

...And yes, the cops in Cuba were nice with me on more than one occasion, so I really cant complain.

[spyder3]

The cop would never be able to prove in the court of law that you were actually texting while driving unless he caught you red handed. A sobriety check is pretty cut and dry. You are drunk behind the wheel or your not.

I understand your point, but it would never work.

for common sense.

[r1100rider]

It could be possible, but with a good lawyer you can probably get off even with that. Around my neck of the woods, hands free devices are still legal, and it would be up to the cop to prove to the judge without the shadow of a doubt that you were on the phone at the time illegally.

...And yes, the cops in Cuba were nice with me on more than one occasion, so I really cant complain.

it would not be hard to prove at all your dates and post time are all on texts so a quick download of your phone and your busted if you are driving

[rnet]

it would not be hard to prove at all your dates and post time are all on texts so a quick download of your phone and your busted if you are driving

And what if you are pulled off the road or someone else is using your phone. Not so easy is it.

[boborgera]

The truth be told, Even if you can beat the ticket in court the time and cost will be nothing compared to the aggravation you'll go though fighting it, That's why most people just pony up and pay, And the courts know that,.

[Firefly]

The truth be told, Even if you can beat the ticket in court the time and cost will be nothing compared to the aggravation you'll go though fighting it, That's why most people just pony up and pay, And the courts know that,.

Actually it's easy to fight them. Most will offer a plea/deferral by phone or mail.......you rarely have to go to court.


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[r1100rider]

And what if you are pulled off the road or someone else is using your phone. Not so easy is it.

What if your the only one in the the car and the text shows it was just in the last few minutes and your on a freeway with no reststops easy bust and the burden of proof is always on you innocent until proven guilty is yesterday just try to beat a ticket nowadays

[Arr MiHardies]

What if your the only one in the the car and the text shows it was just in the last few minutes and your on a freeway with no reststops easy bust and the burden of proof is always on you innocent until proven guilty is yesterday just try to beat a ticket nowadays

Could have texted from the shoulder of the freeway or before you got on the freeway at the last on ramp

[r1100rider]

Could have texted from the shoulder of the freeway or before you got on the freeway at the last on ramp

Lot of things. could have been but when you are in court the cops are the good old boys and whatever they say is the gods honest truth and your just some scumbag who lied to try to get out of a ticket and what if the last on ramp was 10 miles ago ,was it an emergency or were you were a hazard which is another ticket

[Bob Denman]

Actually it's easy to fight them. Most will offer a plea/deferral by phone or mail.......you rarely have to go to court.

Fly, I'm curious about something...
If you're driving where the posted speed limit is 55 and you're doing 70 and know it... If you get written up; would you fight it or admit the truth, own your mistake and pay the fine?

[arntufun]

Fly, I'm curious about something...
If you're driving where the posted speed limit is 55 and you're doing 70 and know it... If you get written up; would you fight it or admit the truth, own your mistake and pay the fine?

Always fight it. Those greedy insurance people will raise your rates with tickets !!!!

[Bob Denman]

Sooo... you're telling me that you would rather take the chicken way out and lie????
Call me an old-fashioned pain in the , but a person who'd lie would also steal...

[arntufun]

Sooo... you're telling me that you would rather take the chicken way out and lie????
Call me an old-fashioned pain in the , but a person who'd lie would also steal...

You will never have to lie Bob, thats what my lawyer is for.

[Trooper]

it would not be hard to prove at all your dates and post time are all on texts so a quick download of your phone and your busted if you are driving

It still would not prove that I was in a moving vehicle. The officer would have to physically catch you in the act to be able to prove anything to a judge in a court of law. The judge would probably throw the cop out of the courtroom if all he showed up with was a cell phone text record.

I am not sure about the U.S., but thats the way it works up here in my neck of the continent.

[Bob Denman]

You will never have to lie Bob, thats what my lawyer is for.

See now... If you actually behave a bit better you don't need the lawyer... they're too expensive for my tastes anyway!

Where'd Fly go now that things are finally getting interesting again??

[boborgera]

Actually it's easy to fight them. Most will offer a plea/deferral by phone or mail.......you rarely have to go to court.


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That's what i meant by ponying up. If you want to take it all the way[court] You'll get a quick lesson on how the traffic courts work $$$$

[Arr MiHardies]

I was driving from Seattle back home to Vegas after heading up there for a funeral with my wife a few years back. We were on a long, straight, empty stretch of desert highway in northern Nevada. I had the pedal to the metal (it's a very long drive. About 16 hours as I recall). My intuition was telling me there was a cop nearby. So every time I saw any car on the horizon, I would slow down till it passed. After about three times of this, my wife said "just go". So I did. Very next car on the horizon was a highway patrol going the other way. Saw the lights turn on in my rear view mirror, and I pulled myself over before he even finished his u turn. There was no one else around he could have possibly been going after.
I rolled down my window, provided my license and registration. He said "I clocked you doing 93 in a 75 zone. Did you know you were going that fast sir?" "Honestly, yeah." "where you coming from?" "Seattle" "where you going?" "Vegas" "what were you doing up in Seattle" "attending my wife's aunt's funeral". "alright, give me a minute sir."
A few minutes later he came back. He said "I appreciate the honesty, so I only wrote you up for 5 miles over. Sign here please". We could have fought the ticket, and won as he filled out the registration section of the form incorrectly. The car I was driving was registered to my wife, not to me. Had he run that registration in the computer with her name, he would have seen she works for the Vegas MPD and we probably would have gotten out of the ticket completely anyways. But I did the crime so I paid the fine. Don't break the law if you aren't willing to deal with the consequences. Fighting tickets costs the state rightly deserved funds to improve our usually crappy roads. Not to mention the money it costs the court.

[arntufun]

Fighting tickets costs the state rightly deserved funds to improve our usually crappy roads. Not to mention the money it costs the court.

This is the funniest thing I have ever heard. Rightly deserved funds, then you follow it up with they use the money it to fix the roads.







Getting out of a a ticket because your wife works for Vegas PD !!!!!!!! This further reassures the cops think there above the law.

[Bob Denman]

[QUOTE=Arr MiHardies;449219. Don't break the law if you aren't willing to deal with the consequences.QUOTE]
Amen...


Thank you for some good old-fashioned common sense!

[zrc]

Bob,

Last time I got a ticket, you can call and go to online school instead of appearing in court. I was speeding I admitted it, I was guilty and they didnt care because the School + Deferment fee is > ticket fee. It is also less time in the court.

So lets just take a minute and be honest, its about money.

[arntufun]

Bob,

Last time I got a ticket, you can call and go to online school instead of appearing in court. I was speeding I admitted it, I was guilty and they didnt care because the School + Deferment fee is > ticket fee. It is also less time in the court.

So lets just take a minute and be honest, its about money.

Don't say "it's about money" !!!!!!! You must say........ RIGHTLY DESERVED FUNDS.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

HAVE WE SET THE RECORD YET FOR MOST POSTS ON A SINGLE THREAD ????? ..IF NOT WHAT IS THE RECORD....ANYBODY KNOW ?????.....MIKE...

[Bob Denman]

I'm pretty sure that the thread about Lamont's NVBs has us beat by a country mile...