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Fueling
When fueling my new RTS (2 months, 2,000 miles) I always hold the pump manually and wait for it to shut off. I then hit it one more time to make sure it is full and always look to make sure it seems full. Today, did the same thing, but thought I would see if I could baby any more fuel in before it overflowed at the cap neck. It took about 2 minutes but I actually got almost another gallon in and it still did not overflow at the cap neck. Of course I was able to go considerably further today than normal and it was nice not having to stop for gas.
Any other bike I have ever owned would never take this much fuel after shutting off without overflowing at the cap neck. Any comments on whether this is pretty much standard procedure or maybe I have a venting problem. I am really surprised that I was able to get that much more fuel in as it looked like it was going to overflow after the auto shut off. I just kept hitting the pump for a second or so, wait till it settled and kept doing it as mentioned above.
Sorry for all the questions, but I am really attempting to learn the proper procedures for the Spyder as it certainly is nothing like my other bikes. Got to say, LOVE IT!!!
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Originally Posted by Alberts46
When fueling my new RTS (2 months, 2,000 miles) I always hold the pump manually and wait for it to shut off. I then hit it one more time to make sure it is full and always look to make sure it seems full. Today, did the same thing, but thought I would see if I could baby any more fuel in before it overflowed at the cap neck. It took about 2 minutes but I actually got almost another gallon in and it still did not overflow at the cap neck. Of course I was able to go considerably further today than normal and it was nice not having to stop for gas.
Any other bike I have ever owned would never take this much fuel after shutting off without overflowing at the cap neck. Any comments on whether this is pretty much standard procedure or maybe I have a venting problem. I am really surprised that I was able to get that much more fuel in as it looked like it was going to overflow after the auto shut off. I just kept hitting the pump for a second or so, wait till it settled and kept doing it as mentioned above.
Sorry for all the questions, but I am really attempting to learn the proper procedures for the Spyder as it certainly is nothing like my other bikes. Got to say, LOVE IT!!!
My Spyder would always take another gal or so after the click off, My Tri Glide will do the same.
My 6n will take a half gal after click off, But that's only a 4,2 gal tank.
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If your model is equipped with an evap canister.... I can see a new canister in your futur! I've been doing like you from day one and now I have to have the canister changed!!!
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Is your canister needing change to meet emission controls or is causing engine problems? As I understand it it captures fumes and if you overfill it puts raw gas in as well. Are our tanks vented or is vent back through the charcoal canister? Just wondering if there is a down side other than meeting EPA regulations.
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Motorbike Professor
Originally Posted by bluestratos
Is your canister needing change to meet emission controls or is causing engine problems? As I understand it it captures fumes and if you overfill it puts raw gas in as well. Are our tanks vented or is vent back through the charcoal canister? Just wondering if there is a down side other than meeting EPA regulations.
Vents on all fuel tanks are routed through the charcoal canister...EPA regulations (unless the manufacturer finds a legal alternative).
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
2011 RT-622 trailer, Aspen Sentry popup camper, custom motorcycle trailer to pull behind the Spyder
Mutant Trikes Forever!
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Well I just hang on until it clicks off, then take it up to the next even dollar amount... At today's fuel costs that usually is about another quart or less.
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I find the length of the hose nozzle makes a difference in when it shuts off. If it is a short nozzle, when it lets go, I let go. Maybe a little more if the nozzle is long. I know from experience that over filling a cars fuel tank can cause problems, including a check engine light.
On the subject of overfilling, too fast fueling and attends doing the fueling. Ever watch a BSA Golden Flash burn a gas station down. Interesting.The atendent would not let us put our own fuel in.
Oldmanzues
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Very Active Member
Originally Posted by NancysToy
Vents on all fuel tanks are routed through the charcoal canister...EPA regulations (unless the manufacturer finds a legal alternative).
Thanks, that is what I thought
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SpyderLovers Sponsor
do they put these canisters on all rts or does it vary from state to state?. i too have been adding more fuel after it clicks like getting that little extra milage before filling up again but if its destroying this canister then i'm going to stop.
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Motorbike Professor
Originally Posted by scooterexpress
do they put these canisters on all rts or does it vary from state to state?. i too have been adding more fuel after it clicks like getting that little extra milage before filling up again but if its destroying this canister then i'm going to stop.
Yes, all states.
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
2011 RT-622 trailer, Aspen Sentry popup camper, custom motorcycle trailer to pull behind the Spyder
Mutant Trikes Forever!
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SpyderLovers Sponsor
will the fuel disapate from the canister after awhile or will it just stay there?
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Canister
Originally Posted by scooterexpress
will the fuel disapate from the canister after awhile or will it just stay there?
Supposed to evaporate after a while... if under the sun for hours!
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Originally Posted by scooterexpress
will the fuel disapate from the canister after awhile or will it just stay there?
If every thing is working the way the canister was designed to work it will dissipate back into the throttle body's to be brunt up. But if its not working right in ''some'' cases the charcoal in the canister will get saturated and have to be replaced.
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I put the tip of the nozzle right at the opening for the gas tank. The nozzle does not enter the tank at all when I fill up. I stop filling up the minute I start getting splash back out of the upper vent openings at the gas cap.
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Fuel Smell
Originally Posted by bluestratos
Is your canister needing change to meet emission controls or is causing engine problems? As I understand it it captures fumes and if you overfill it puts raw gas in as well. Are our tanks vented or is vent back through the charcoal canister? Just wondering if there is a down side other than meeting EPA regulations.
So, might this be my problem why I'm getting a nasty fuel smell coming out of the right side of the engine and blowing all over my pants. Raw Fuel? Just wondering. It's getting worse and worse and I smell like I've been in the garage all day long working on the machine.
Biker
Thou shalt not criticize the Indian, until he has walked a mile in his moccasins.
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Originally Posted by Biker
So, might this be my problem why I'm getting a nasty fuel smell coming out of the right side of the engine and blowing all over my pants. Raw Fuel? Just wondering. It's getting worse and worse and I smell like I've been in the garage all day long working on the machine.
Biker
Yep, I would say so. Now when i had my Spyder 08 GS, I put every last drop of gas i could squeeze in, And in the over the 3 years i had it i never had a gas smell or dripping, So if the system is working right like it should, There shouldn't be a gas smell even if you fill the tank to the top.
That said i probably got lucky on that one, Because if you read all the threads on this subject not many others have my luck.
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Motorbike Professor
Fuel should eventually dissipate from a flooded canister (it can take months), but the canister will no longer be effective in absorbing fuel vapors, as the activated charcoal will be saturated and ruined. Since the charcoal can't be removed from the canister and reactivated, the canister must be replaced to meet emissions requirements.
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
2011 RT-622 trailer, Aspen Sentry popup camper, custom motorcycle trailer to pull behind the Spyder
Mutant Trikes Forever!
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