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Best Battery?
I have a Spyder RS and im adding a stereo. Whats the best battery out there to handle the extra drain?
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Motorbike Professor
Adding a battery, or replacing the original with a bigger battery (good luck with that), will not allow you to run a bigger amp...it will just make the battery run down a bit later. Every vehicle has a certain amount of amperage available for accessories, and all the batteries in the world can't change that. Since you can't put in a bigger alternator (magneto), you are stuck with the same capacity no matter what you do.
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
2011 RT-622 trailer, Aspen Sentry popup camper, custom motorcycle trailer to pull behind the Spyder
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I think you could run a second battery with an isolator, that way the stereo is fed only from the spare and will not drain the main battery but the charging system will still charge it. If you draw too much only the spare battery will get dragged down. Isolators are often sold at RV stores like Camping world. It allows current only to go in one direction so current will flow in to charge but nothing flows to the main wireing system. The radio/amp must be wired directly to the second battery. A deep cycle battery may be a better choice as they take deep discharge better than stock batteries.
Good luck with it.
Randy
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Motorbike Professor
Originally Posted by bluestratos
I think you could run a second battery with an isolator, that way the stereo is fed only from the spare and will not drain the main battery but the charging system will still charge it. If you draw too much only the spare battery will get dragged down. Isolators are often sold at RV stores like Camping world. It allows current only to go in one direction so current will flow in to charge but nothing flows to the main wireing system. The radio/amp must be wired directly to the second battery. A deep cycle battery may be a better choice as they take deep discharge better than stock batteries.
Good luck with it.
Randy
Yes, you could certainly do that, but it would not increase the amount of juice available to the stereo in any way.
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
2011 RT-622 trailer, Aspen Sentry popup camper, custom motorcycle trailer to pull behind the Spyder
Mutant Trikes Forever!
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Registered Users
My stereo comes with its own battery. I put in ear speakers turn up sound and Ipod does the rest.
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The back of envelope numbers
On the RS the output on the magneto is limited to 40 amps. I cannot find the spec that tells me at what rpm that is reached but the test specs call for the tests to be done at 4,000 rpm. So the max has to be less then that. Off the top of my head the basic uses when engine running (engine control module, lights and battery recharge) will draw about 20 to 22 amps. The dynamic power steering will draw a max of 20 amps but that is for extremely short periods of time you could likely count on a average draw of 5 amps. That would leave about 13 amps for your add ons. To be on the safe side I would not count on more then 10 amps.
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My wife has been running an 100w amp/radio/SD card slot/whatever else with speakers on her 08 RS with the original battery for over a year and has had no problems with it. Oh, except for the time she FORGOT TO TURN IT OFF!
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output peak
Originally Posted by Texmac1011
My wife has been running an 100w amp/radio/SD card slot/whatever else with speakers on her 08 RS with the original battery for over a year and has had no problems with it. Oh, except for the time she FORGOT TO TURN IT OFF!
Audio amps are rated at peak output and some fantasy factor. At full volume some peaks in the output, for a few milliseconds, will reach a 100 watts. In real world use, running at half volume, the amp will only use on averge about half of it's output rated power as input power. So assuming average 50 watt input that is only 4 amps. The spyder can handle that without problem.
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lowest draw
you might want to consider an amp that is somewhat low draw. i use the dwg waterproof speaker system. it has its own small amp. it's a two speaker system. for what it is ,it's ok. i forget the exact draw but it isn't much. that ,coupled with a car head unit in the trunk makes for a decent system .it's supposed to be 100 watts, but i seriously doubt it. all in all i would call it good.
it was fun while it lasted.
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You have to see a battery as you would see a bank checking account. You can only take out as much as you put in. The trick is to have a larger capacity alternator with its larger voltage regulator and then a larger capacity storage battery. That means a bigger (in dimension) size battery. I can't imagine where you would put a bigger battery in a Spyder and I wonder if there is a larger output alternator with its voltage regulator for a Can Am 998 cc engine. I did all that to my Harley side car very successfully. But I had to use the left side case to hold the automotive battery.
Originally Posted by NancysToy
Adding a battery, or replacing the original with a bigger battery (good luck with that), will not allow you to run a bigger amp...it will just make the battery run down a bit later. Every vehicle has a certain amount of amperage available for accessories, and all the batteries in the world can't change that. Since you can't put in a bigger alternator (magneto), you are stuck with the same capacity no matter what you do.
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Motorbike Professor
Originally Posted by Arthur---Mexico
You have to see a battery as you would see a bank checking account. You can only take out as much as you put in. The trick is to have a larger capacity alternator with its larger voltage regulator and then a larger capacity storage battery. That means a bigger (in dimension) size battery. I can't imagine where you would put a bigger battery in a Spyder and I wonder if there is a larger output alternator with its voltage regulator for a Can Am 998 cc engine. I did all that to my Harley side car very successfully. But I had to use the left side case to hold the automotive battery.
Very good analogy, Arthur. Thanks for finding the words to explain simply and elegantly.
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
2011 RT-622 trailer, Aspen Sentry popup camper, custom motorcycle trailer to pull behind the Spyder
Mutant Trikes Forever!
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battery hook up i use
i went with the oddesy for my main battery lamont talked about i have the jl audio package 400 watt system installed i used a opec battery isolator and im running a blue Kinetik HC600 Power Cell batter battery
and a Odyssey PC680 Battery for my main battery both have quick connet cords for fast charging i use the CTEK MULTI US 7002 12-Volt Universal Battery Charger w/ Pulse Maintenance and Backup Power and i have the indicators on there to let you know your battery status CTEK 56-380 Comfort Indicator Panel will keep you updated
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second battery loction
Originally Posted by nphilly
i went with the oddesy for my main battery lamont talked about i have the jl audio package 400 watt system installed i used a opec battery isolator and im running a blue Kinetik HC600 Power Cell batter battery
and a Odyssey PC680 Battery for my main battery both have quick connet cords for fast charging i use the CTEK MULTI US 7002 12-Volt Universal Battery Charger w/ Pulse Maintenance and Backup Power and i have the indicators on there to let you know your battery status CTEK 56-380 Comfort Indicator Panel will keep you updated
do ur lo batt light ever come on and do u have any storage space left in trunk?
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second battery location
no batt light dont come on have a smart isolator hooked up
i have the jl audio package kenitics battery in the fronyt next to the sub woofer it fits perfectly also i charge it every night and when i'm not ridding i keep the odessy on a ctek charger works good
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