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Looks like they had it right to start with
Fred Rau posted this pic on facebook of the clay RT and trailer. Notice they had stock front wheels on the trailer. Wish they would have kept it that way so you could carry one spare that would work with the front of the RT and the trailer.
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My suspicion is that the trailer got caught up in the regulations, and the three lug wheel was not legal under the current regulatory structure. It might be possible to get the weight rating and "axle" certified, but it would take time and $$$ at very least. This is the easiest way out in that case. Also remember that the Spyder tires are taller, on 14" wheels, so the trailer would sit higher...and the added unsprung weight from the taller wheels and wider tires would affect the suspension needs and the handling. The RT-622 is pretty darned perfect in that department, so I am not sure of a good reason to mess with it. Not sure of the wisdom of carrying a spare for the front of the Spyder when the rear isn't the same, either. JMHO
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Originally Posted by NancysToy
My suspicion is that the trailer got caught up in the regulations, and the three lug wheel was not legal under the current regulatory structure. It might be possible to get the weight rating and "axle" certified, but it would take time and $$$ at very least. This is the easiest way out in that case. Also remember that the Spyder tires are taller, on 14" wheels, so the trailer would sit higher...and the added unsprung weight from the taller wheels and wider tires would affect the suspension needs and the handling. The RT-622 is pretty darned perfect in that department, so I am not sure of a good reason to mess with it. Not sure of the wisdom of carrying a spare for the front of the Spyder when the rear isn't the same, either. JMHO
I would think if they could get away with a swingarm mounted hitch on the Spyder a three lug hub would be no big deal. There are plenty of trailers that ride higher than the RT trailer too so I don't see that being an issue. I guess the point of carrying a spare for the front and trailer would be four of the five wheels you're using could be used as a spare if needed.
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Perhaps stability concerns overcame "ease of use" issues...
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
Perhaps stability concerns overcame "ease of use" issues...
Larger wheels handle better. My Bushtec had large wheels on it and it handled great. My guess is cost, the trailer still has the same size cutout for the larger wheel but my guess is going with the smaller wheel and tire cut the cost quite a bit..
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This might be splitting hairs given the difference in wheel sizes, but wouldn't larger wheels raise the COG and make the trailer more likely to tip over?
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Originally Posted by dancogan
This might be splitting hairs given the difference in wheel sizes, but wouldn't larger wheels raise the COG and make the trailer more likely to tip over?
If it was a straight axle maybe but with a trailing arm setup it would have little effect and could be adjusted to sit lower.
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Since BRP decided to use a six spoke wheel on the RT they could have used a six lug wheel for the 622 on the same bolt circle and it would have fit the Spyder as well. Some of aftermarket wheels have multiple holes for different bolt patterns.
Just a thought.
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These would be great questions to ask BRP in Durango and hear it from the engineers as to there reasoning. and why the trailer doesn't come with chrome wheels
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-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
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I would have thought from a production standpoint it would be cheaper to use an existing wheel---- literally why reinvent the wheel--- lol
Would make sense for a spare too. If I was to carry a spare for the Spyder it would be a front. 66.7% chance of front blowout vs 33.3% rear.
I do carry a spare for the trailer.
Always cool to see the clay models.
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I don't think they will sell very many in that color.
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Originally Posted by cougar
I don't think they will sell very many in that color.
Don't worry, it looks just like Lava Bronze after they apply the clearcoat.
-Scotty
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2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
2011 RT-622 trailer, Aspen Sentry popup camper, custom motorcycle trailer to pull behind the Spyder
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Originally Posted by Firefly
I would have thought from a production standpoint it would be cheaper to use an existing wheel---- literally why reinvent the wheel--- lol
Would make sense for a spare too. If I was to carry a spare for the Spyder it would be a front. 66.7% chance of front blowout vs 33.3% rear.
I do carry a spare for the trailer.
Always cool to see the clay models.
I too carry a spare for the trailer and have ride on in the rear of the spyder, next time will get it in front also. They (dealership) said the RT 622 tires were too small & not recommended to put Ride on in them .
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Originally Posted by TicketBait
I too carry a spare for the trailer and have ride on in the rear of the spyder, next time will get it in front also. They (dealership) said the RT 622 tires were too small & not recommended to put Ride on in them .
I heard that, too, but the Ride-On tables have a volume for that size tire. I have been running Ride-On in my trailer tires from the beginning, with no problems whatsover.
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
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Originally Posted by Lamonster
Fred Rau posted this pic on facebook of the clay RT and trailer. Notice they had stock front wheels on the trailer. Wish they would have kept it that way so you could carry one spare that would work with the front of the RT and the trailer.
Went to Walmart and found a spyder in a can.
Now I know where they come from.
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