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    Default Looks like they had it right to start with

    Fred Rau posted this pic on facebook of the clay RT and trailer. Notice they had stock front wheels on the trailer. Wish they would have kept it that way so you could carry one spare that would work with the front of the RT and the trailer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamonster View Post
    Fred Rau posted this pic on facebook of the clay RT and trailer. Notice they had stock front wheels on the trailer. Wish they would have kept it that way so you could carry one spare that would work with the front of the RT and the trailer.
    Makes good sense with one spare for both Spyder and trailer.


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    My suspicion is that the trailer got caught up in the regulations, and the three lug wheel was not legal under the current regulatory structure. It might be possible to get the weight rating and "axle" certified, but it would take time and $$$ at very least. This is the easiest way out in that case. Also remember that the Spyder tires are taller, on 14" wheels, so the trailer would sit higher...and the added unsprung weight from the taller wheels and wider tires would affect the suspension needs and the handling. The RT-622 is pretty darned perfect in that department, so I am not sure of a good reason to mess with it. Not sure of the wisdom of carrying a spare for the front of the Spyder when the rear isn't the same, either. JMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by NancysToy View Post
    My suspicion is that the trailer got caught up in the regulations, and the three lug wheel was not legal under the current regulatory structure. It might be possible to get the weight rating and "axle" certified, but it would take time and $$$ at very least. This is the easiest way out in that case. Also remember that the Spyder tires are taller, on 14" wheels, so the trailer would sit higher...and the added unsprung weight from the taller wheels and wider tires would affect the suspension needs and the handling. The RT-622 is pretty darned perfect in that department, so I am not sure of a good reason to mess with it. Not sure of the wisdom of carrying a spare for the front of the Spyder when the rear isn't the same, either. JMHO
    I would think if they could get away with a swingarm mounted hitch on the Spyder a three lug hub would be no big deal. There are plenty of trailers that ride higher than the RT trailer too so I don't see that being an issue. I guess the point of carrying a spare for the front and trailer would be four of the five wheels you're using could be used as a spare if needed.

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    Perhaps stability concerns overcame "ease of use" issues...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Perhaps stability concerns overcame "ease of use" issues...
    Larger wheels handle better. My Bushtec had large wheels on it and it handled great. My guess is cost, the trailer still has the same size cutout for the larger wheel but my guess is going with the smaller wheel and tire cut the cost quite a bit..

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    They were worried about cost and it STILL cost $4000???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    They were worried about cost and it STILL cost $4000???
    My Bushtec was over $6K

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    ... Now I know why I pack light...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    They were worried about cost and it STILL cost $4000???

    Man that a great price ! They got me for 5200 tail lights down the road.
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    This might be splitting hairs given the difference in wheel sizes, but wouldn't larger wheels raise the COG and make the trailer more likely to tip over?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dancogan View Post
    This might be splitting hairs given the difference in wheel sizes, but wouldn't larger wheels raise the COG and make the trailer more likely to tip over?
    If it was a straight axle maybe but with a trailing arm setup it would have little effect and could be adjusted to sit lower.

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    Back tire is deflated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamonster View Post
    My Bushtec was over $6K

    Rumour has it that the Bushtec trailers have a great lock on them, making it NEARLY impossible to break in. Any truth to that?

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    Since BRP decided to use a six spoke wheel on the RT they could have used a six lug wheel for the 622 on the same bolt circle and it would have fit the Spyder as well. Some of aftermarket wheels have multiple holes for different bolt patterns.
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    These would be great questions to ask BRP in Durango and hear it from the engineers as to there reasoning. and why the trailer doesn't come with chrome wheels

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    Quote Originally Posted by docdoru View Post
    Back tire is deflated.
    Flattened from burnouts???

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    Quote Originally Posted by TicketBait View Post
    These would be great questions to ask BRP in Durango and hear it from the engineers as to there reasoning. and why the trailer doesn't come with chrome wheels
    My trailer came with smoked chrome wheels???
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    Quote Originally Posted by NancysToy View Post
    My trailer came with smoked chrome wheels???
    yes, mine have smoked chrome for the trailer that initially matched but I now have on my RTS chrome front wheels that replaced my damaged ( from accident ) smoked chrome. I could of gotten the smoked but after seeing these it's ok that i don't match!

    I kept looking at this photo going what's missing? then it dawned on me that the front wheels look so much larger without a fender over it.

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    I would have thought from a production standpoint it would be cheaper to use an existing wheel---- literally why reinvent the wheel--- lol

    Would make sense for a spare too. If I was to carry a spare for the Spyder it would be a front. 66.7% chance of front blowout vs 33.3% rear.

    I do carry a spare for the trailer.

    Always cool to see the clay models.

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    I don't think they will sell very many in that color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cougar View Post
    I don't think they will sell very many in that color.
    Don't worry, it looks just like Lava Bronze after they apply the clearcoat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    I would have thought from a production standpoint it would be cheaper to use an existing wheel---- literally why reinvent the wheel--- lol

    Would make sense for a spare too. If I was to carry a spare for the Spyder it would be a front. 66.7% chance of front blowout vs 33.3% rear.

    I do carry a spare for the trailer.

    Always cool to see the clay models.
    I too carry a spare for the trailer and have ride on in the rear of the spyder, next time will get it in front also. They (dealership) said the RT 622 tires were too small & not recommended to put Ride on in them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by TicketBait View Post
    I too carry a spare for the trailer and have ride on in the rear of the spyder, next time will get it in front also. They (dealership) said the RT 622 tires were too small & not recommended to put Ride on in them .
    I heard that, too, but the Ride-On tables have a volume for that size tire. I have been running Ride-On in my trailer tires from the beginning, with no problems whatsover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamonster View Post
    Fred Rau posted this pic on facebook of the clay RT and trailer. Notice they had stock front wheels on the trailer. Wish they would have kept it that way so you could carry one spare that would work with the front of the RT and the trailer.
    Went to Walmart and found a spyder in a can.
    Now I know where they come from.

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