Got a flat on the trailer because of a bad bearing

**dave01** · 10-13-2011, 02:40 AM

to Columbia Motorsports for the assist. Gotta love dealers that go out of thier way to help stranded ryders.

**fastfraser** · 10-13-2011, 06:29 AM

Sorry for your troubles Lamont . Any damage to the trailer ? How did it pull after the hub and wheel where replaced ? When was the last time you greased the bearings ? Good luck on the rest of the trip to Daytona .

**Lamonster** · 10-13-2011, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by fastfraser

Sorry for your troubles Lamont . Any damage to the trailer ? How did it pull after the hub and wheel where replaced ? When was the last time you greased the bearings ? Good luck on the rest of the trip to Daytona .

No damage to the trailer
Pulled fine with the new hub and bearings
Yesterday

**SteveMac** · 10-13-2011, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by Lamonster

No damage to the trailer
Pulled fine with the new hub and bearings
Yesterday

Glad you weren't on the M109 doing about 150! Yikes!

**NancysToy** · 10-13-2011, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by Phil

Scotty- now that I have a trailer, I'm reading with great interest. I want to do as much preventative as possible. I read that Ride-on can give out of balance. I'm guessing you didn't have that? I will get the Stop-n-Go to keep with me.

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I have had no problems in over 3,500 miles since I put Ride-On in the trailer tires. Like the Spyder, you can feel it as you first start out, especially after sitting a long while, but it distributes itself in a few miles. If nothing else, it gives me great peace of mind. Of course it would help anything like Lamont's situation. I have never seen a hole worn through the tread of a tire like that!

**mowin** · 10-13-2011, 07:42 AM

Lamont..how ironic the dealers sign you were parked next to had the word "blowout"

Glad everything worked out..

**SpyderAnn01** · 10-13-2011, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by NancysToy

Just curious. I put Ride-On in mine, and did not want to hear of a flat with it in there. I also carry a Stop-N-Go tire plugger and a compressor. I have considered a spare, and carry one on my tent camper, but I hate to give up the space and the weight. I hope you can get a bearing, and be back on the road soon.

Just a reminder to all, that there is a maintenance schedule for the trailer, too. Although the schedule calls for greasing the bearings every 12,000 miles, this is hard to track. I suggest doing it at the beginning of every riding season. The bearings and seals can be inspected and replaced (if necessary) at that time.

Sounds like pretty good advice Scotty. I've got Ride on in mine and I hope I make it to Las Vegas without having any problems. Something else to worry about

Lamont I hope you are back on the road.

**cougar** · 10-13-2011, 09:56 AM

Anyone make "run flats" in that size??

**MarkLawson** · 10-13-2011, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by cougar

Anyone make "run flats" in that size??

In Lamont's case, "run flats" wouldn't have helped since the wheel was not turning.

**MouthPiece** · 10-13-2011, 03:55 PM

We need more Spyderlovers in Daytona. Lamont is in a funk.

Chris

**rafiki2cu** · 10-13-2011, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by MouthPiece

We need more Spyderlovers in Daytona. Lamont is in a funk.

Chris

If my spider was not in the shop I would ride on down.

**cougar** · 10-13-2011, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by MarkLawson

In Lamont's case, "run flats" wouldn't have helped since the wheel was not turning.

In that case, neither would a spare.

**bruiser** · 10-13-2011, 05:54 PM

Glad you got it taken care of. I think too it shows the great handling characteristics of the Spyder even when towing a trailer with a bum wheel.

**GA-SPYDER** · 10-13-2011, 07:57 PM

That be my dealer of choice, even though there is one about 60 miles closer to my house..... Long story.
Good that you made it, Lamont.

**Lamonster** · 10-14-2011, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by mowin

Lamont..how ironic the dealers sign you were parked next to had the word "blowout"

Glad everything worked out..

Now that's funny, I didn't notice that.

**Freddy** · 10-14-2011, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by rafiki2cu

If my spider was not in the shop I would ride on down.

arntufun · 10-14-2011, 11:31 AM

Do you have any idea how many miles are on your trailer ???

**TicketBait** · 10-14-2011, 07:34 PM

Good thread, read every post. It's good Lamont that you didn't let the circumstance get the best of you. I figure I have approx 7-8 miles on my trailer now. When I take the bike in for service is that when they should grease the bearings?

My dealership said they called Ride-On and were told that it is not recommended for that small of a tire.

I do carry a spare.

This is good to know you were able to stop the bike and trailer safely!

Also since you replaced the one tire, is it necessary to replace the other side, since it looked like you had allot of wear on them ?

**NancysToy** · 10-14-2011, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by TicketBait

Good thread, read every post. It's good Lamont that you didn't let the circumstance get the best of you. I figure I have approx 7-8 miles on my trailer now. When I take the bike in for service is that when they should grease the bearings?

My dealership said they called Ride-On and were told that it is not recommended for that small of a tire.

I do carry a spare.

This is good to know you were able to stop the bike and trailer safely!

Also since you replaced the one tire, is it necessary to replace the other side, since it looked like you had allot of wear on them ?

Ride-On has a filling volume listed for that tire. Not sure why they would verbally recommend against it. Anyway, I have not had any issues or excessive heat in 3,500 miles. I'll continue to run it.

**SpyderDen** · 10-14-2011, 07:46 PM

It wasn't a wear issue. The bearing failure caused the wheel to seize. Little round tires, not turning at 80MPH tend to do bad things. A brand new tire would have had the same result.

**SpyderFun** · 10-20-2011, 08:43 AM

BlowOut.jpg
You can see the "Flat Spot" on the tire. This is when the bearing physically seized and caused the blowout. Suffice it to say that avoiding any trailer damage is in-itself reason to celebrate!

Lamont, was there any axle damage (ie signs of over heating or scoring on the face of the race)?

**Lamonster** · 10-20-2011, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by SpyderFun

BlowOut.jpg
You can see the "Flat Spot" on the tire. This is when the bearing physically seized and caused the blowout. Suffice it to say that avoiding any trailer damage is in-itself reason to celebrate!

Lamont, was there any axle damage (ie signs of over heating or scoring on the face of the race)?

The race had to be cut off but there was no damage to the axle. Looks to me like the rear seal had let some moisture in and that's what helped speed the process of the bearing failure. I did look into new hub setups and I can get a triple lip seal hub with grease zerk for about 40 bucks each and that may be the route I take.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...6886_200466886

**SpyderFun** · 10-20-2011, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by Lamonster

The race had to be cut off but there was no damage to the axle. Looks to me like the rear seal had let some moisture in and that's what helped speed the process of the bearing failure. I did look into new hub setups and I can get a triple lip seal hub with grease zerk for about 40 bucks each and that may be the route I take.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...6886_200466886

Moisture in a confined heated area = steam and it has to get released somehow & usually does with ugly results. Glad to hear no damage to your axle (more reason to celebrate).

Just a FYI for those thinking of getting this kind of a setup and have never used it. The proper technique to "repack" the bearing is to keep pumping grease in until you see old grease coming out (purging of old grease) and keep pumping until you see fresh grease. I had a neighbor who thought just giving it "a few pumps of grease" was enough for his boat trailer. He quickly discovered he needed new bearings & races (4-axles) because they had corrosion due to not getting the moisture completely out.

**MouthPiece** · 10-20-2011, 09:49 AM

I've debated whether to ask or not, but decided to go ahead and ask. I apologize in that it is a bit "off point", but similar. I think I recall Lamont with a video showing how to take the back wheel off. Additionally, I think I recall him saying that THAT was probably a good time to change the bearings on the rear wheel.

My question is IS there a rule of thumb for when one should change the bearings on the back wheel? Any input would be appreciated.

Chris

**Lamonster** · 10-20-2011, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by MouthPiece

I've debated whether to ask or not, but decided to go ahead and ask. I apologize in that it is a bit "off point", but similar. I think I recall Lamont with a video showing how to take the back wheel off. Additionally, I think I recall him saying that THAT was probably a good time to change the bearings on the rear wheel.

My question is IS there a rule of thumb for when one should change the bearings on the back wheel? Any input would be appreciated.

Chris

I check them at every tire change but there's no reason to change them if they are still good.

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