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BRP Oil
I'am sure this has been discussed before, but I haven’t been able to find anything on this new site.
My question is: What kind of oil are you using if you don’t use BRP oil? I have a SE5 so I need the synthetic oil. It just isn’t always convenient to run to the dealer to get a quart of oil. My case in point is, if you go on a long trip and you need to top off the oil you need to carry extra oil with you. (Which I will be doing this next week when I go to the Redwoods). But the next time I change oil if I use a non BRP oil I would be able to go to a Auto parts store or Wal-Mart or some place other than a dealer to pick up a quart of oil when ever I am out on the road.
I guess what I am trying to get to is: What kind of oil would most readily available?
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You are going to get as many opinions as there are brands of oil. I plan to just stick with the BRP oil so I know I will not have any issues with warranty if I have a clutch or engine problem.
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Originally Posted by AntelopeSpyder
I guess what I am trying to get to is: What kind of oil would most readily available?
Any Motorcycle shop regardless of what make bikes they sell will have what you need.
If your just adding a little on a trip, The brand of oil doesn't matter that much as long as it meets or exceeds BRP specs.
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If you want to use BRP oil most of the time, why not just carry a quart with you on trips? Otherwise, boborgera's post about getting any brand motorcycle oil at motorcycle shops is very good advice. I wouldn't count on being able to find a compatible oil for your Spyder at Walmart or the local auto parts store.
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I was in Auto Zone the other day and they had motorcycle 10-40 full synthetic in Mobil1, Valvoline, and Castrol. Either would be a good choice.
Price was just under $10 per quart. As a "preferred customer" I use Amsoil which I get for about $9.25. Amsoil does make a less expensive syn oil that exceeds BRP specs for $6.25 qt called "scooter oil". I've got that in mine now and intend to send a sample to Blackstone Lab to see how it fares after 3K miles. If it looks good at that point I'll use that instead of the $9 stuff. Heres what Amsoil replied to my question as to what is the diff:
The biggest difference between the Motorcycle oil and the Scooter oil is the additive package used. The motorcycle oil contains a more robust additive package to hold up to the most severe conditions motorcycles can offer, like high temperature and higher RPMs.
I've used the scooter oil in 400cc Burgmans running 7-8000 rpm with good results for much longer intervals than 3K miles. Can't see that the Can Am can be any harder on oil than that. Just my opinion of course, so use what makes you feel comfortable.
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Advance Auto stores, CASTROL RS 4T 10w40 Full Synthetic motorcycle oil.
Was available for $8.99 qt but price is going up.
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Walmart today had Valvoline MC oil, reg price $7.99. Rated Jaso/M2, same as my Amsoil. Mobil1 was 8.99.
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Careful with Mobil 1 The formula was changed It has a SM rating on the ''new'' containers.
[Think clutch slippage]
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Registered Users
After having my clutch replaced (SE5) due to not using BRP's oil I will only use their oil now as I was told they would not replace it under warranty again. The first clutch lasted 4000 miles using Mobil1 motorcycle oil, the current one has nearly 3000 miles on it using BRP's oil. Like someone said earlier just purchase an extra quart of BRP's oil. Personally my bike doesn't use oil or it uses so little it's not worth topping off. Because it's a dry sump the oil level is much less critical too.
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what about SM5 owners? Do we still have the clutch slippage issues?
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Motorbike Professor
Originally Posted by Weave2u
what about SM5 owners? Do we still have the clutch slippage issues?
The clutches are basically the same. The SE has an additional, centrifugal clutch. If you are talking about problems with the SM oils, they could cause either wet clutch to fail or slip.
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
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OIL
Originally Posted by boborgera
Any Motorcycle shop regardless of what make bikes they sell will have what you need.
If your just adding a little on a trip, The brand of oil doesn't matter that much as long as it meets or exceeds BRP specs.
You should never mix different brands of oil.
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Originally Posted by woodchuck
You should never mix different brands of oil.
Ill bite , Why.?
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Originally Posted by woodchuck
You should never mix different brands of oil.
Says who ?
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2010 RTS-SE, Orbital Blue
Mixing oil
Back in the day, it was suggested not to mix oils because of their composition. Pensylvania oils(paraffin based) did not always play nice with Western( carbon based) oils.
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Originally Posted by retired1
Back in the day, it was suggested not to mix oils because of their composition. Pensylvania oils(paraffin based) did not always play nice with Western( carbon based) oils.
But that was then, This is now. Remember brake in oil, not used now also.
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2010 RTS-SE, Orbital Blue
Unless a person uses a synthetic oil, the composition of the crude will still hold true to this day.
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Originally Posted by boborgera
Careful with Mobil 1 The formula was changed It has a SM rating on the ''new'' containers.
[Think clutch slippage]
Formula didn't change. The label did... Which doesn't make a lot of sense, but someone here did some digging and found that out for us. Mine ran fine with Mobil 1 through two changes before I switched to Amsoil due to the label/rating change on the Mobil 1.
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Originally Posted by WackyDan
Formula didn't change. The label did... Which doesn't make a lot of sense, but someone here did some digging and found that out for us. Mine ran fine with Mobil 1 through two changes before I switched to Amsoil due to the label/rating change on the Mobil 1.
If i remember correctly?? Lamont posted that his clutch started slipping after using Mobil 1
It was in an old post, I think those are lost now?
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Motorbike Professor
Originally Posted by boborgera
If i remember correctly?? Lamont posted that his clutch started slipping after using Mobil 1
It was in an old post, I think those are lost now?
I believe Lamont's problem came when the Rotella-T label changed. There have been mixed reports with the Mobil-1. Some have reported eventual clutch damage while using it, but not necessarily directly attributable to it. Others have reported no problems, but at least some of those found out they were using oil with the old label. IMO, the jury is still out on this one. For best clutch results I would stick with an oil labeled JASO MA-2, like Castrol RS Racing 4T, or Amsoil.
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
2011 RT-622 trailer, Aspen Sentry popup camper, custom motorcycle trailer to pull behind the Spyder
Mutant Trikes Forever!
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I used Royal Purple, 10W40 Synthetic Automotive oil. Used it in the 2008 SE5 for over 40,000 miles with no issues and am now using it in the RT with 12,000 miles with no issues. When the SE5 valves were checked before resale after trade-in, the valves did not need adjusting at 43,000 miles. That was the first time they were even checked!
2008 GS SE5 in 2008
Traded at 43,000 miles for a left over
2010 RT SM5 in 2011
Traded at 57,000 for a left over
2014 RTS SE6 in 2015, which has 35,000 miles
Oct 19th, 2017, totaled 2014 RT while killing a Javaline
Dec 12th, 2017 drove a 2017 F3L home. What an awesome machine!
Never had any breakdown stranded issues.
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Originally Posted by NancysToy
I believe Lamont's problem came when the Rotella-T label changed. There have been mixed reports with the Mobil-1. Some have reported eventual clutch damage while using it, but not necessarily directly attributable to it. Others have reported no problems, but at least some of those found out they were using oil with the old label. IMO, the jury is still out on this one. For best clutch results I would stick with an oil labeled JASO MA-2, like Castrol RS Racing 4T, or Amsoil.
For what is worth, I've been using Mobil 1 10-30, and the last 2 times 10-40 for just over 18,000 miles now. The key is the only one Mobil 1 I found without the SM rating is the "HIGH MILEAGE". I pick up the big jug (4 gallons) at Wal-Mart for about $24-25.
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Best oil yet AMS oil
Originally Posted by AntelopeSpyder
I'am sure this has been discussed before, but I haven’t been able to find anything on this new site.
My question is: What kind of oil are you using if you don’t use BRP oil? I have a SE5 so I need the synthetic oil. It just isn’t always convenient to run to the dealer to get a quart of oil. My case in point is, if you go on a long trip and you need to top off the oil you need to carry extra oil with you. (Which I will be doing this next week when I go to the Redwoods). But the next time I change oil if I use a non BRP oil I would be able to go to a Auto parts store or Wal-Mart or some place other than a dealer to pick up a quart of oil when ever I am out on the road.
I guess what I am trying to get to is: What kind of oil would most readily available?
AMS oil is the best for your bike. i almost have a SE5
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