Reading a post about the rear fender breaking, and got me to thinking. For those that had a rear fender break, do you you have bags or not? For those that have/had multiple Spyders, you can vote more than once.
Yes
No
Last edited by Blue Star; 05-19-2011 at 11:12 PM.
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Just curious about this question as the bags do not place any stress on any of the fenders...
Bone Crusher
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Just curious about this question as the bags do not place any stress on any of the fenders...
Isn't he talking about the fender brackets? It seems that any weight back there, from bags, a passenger, or yourself will stress the brackets anytime you hit a bump.
Do you remember that post where it mentioned there was a bulletin dealing with the brackets breaking on the earlier GS's? The bulletin mentioned a specific torque sequence to follow; but, the actual torque value did not change. Supposedly, if you followed the new torque sequence, there would be less stress on the brackets when going over bumps, rough roads, etc. At least that's what I understood my dealer was telling me after he looked up the bulletin.
I noticed marks on the fender brackets where they were coming into contact with parts of my Ind 7 rack. Modified the rack a bit which reduced, but did not eliminate, this tendency. When marks to the fender paintwork appeared and other people started to experience breakages, I eliminated the fender and brackets altogether. Now, my Givi side bags and topcase mount do the work of fenders. My passenger stays dry. The bad news is more road dirt on the insides of the bags; the good news is it is easier to get in to clean and for maintenance, and the side bags are easily removed for cleaning. I much prefer this setup.
Just curious about this question as the bags do not place any stress on any of the fenders...
If you have the I7 rack with the GIVI bags and you develope the cracks, BRP & your dealer will tell you it is the fault of the non-OEM
rack hitting the rear fender and you will pay for replacement yourself rather than have them replaced under warranty. Ask me how I know.
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Isn't he talking about the fender brackets? It seems that any weight back there, from bags, a passenger, or yourself will stress the brackets anytime you hit a bump.
Since the swingarm is completely independent of the main frame I can't see how additional weight on the rear is going to put any stress on the fender brackets.
Since the swingarm is completely independent of the main frame I can't see how additional weight on the rear is going to put any stress on the fender brackets.
The problem is actual contact with aftermarket luggage rack parts. This will occur if the rear shock is adjusted too soft, or if you hit a pothole. And yes, extra weight, of say, a passenger or luggage, will make it worse. Check the photo to see some contact marks. Later, several other indications showed up on both the fender and the brackets. If this continues, the fender will self-destruct.
Isn't he talking about the fender brackets? It seems that any weight back there, from bags, a passenger, or yourself will stress the brackets anytime you hit a bump.
Do you remember that post where it mentioned there was a bulletin dealing with the brackets breaking on the earlier GS's? The bulletin mentioned a specific torque sequence to follow; but, the actual torque value did not change. Supposedly, if you followed the new torque sequence, there would be less stress on the brackets when going over bumps, rough roads, etc. At least that's what I understood my dealer was telling me after he looked up the bulletin.
I thought the bulletin had to do with reducing the 'torque' of the 4 bolts...nothing to do with anything putting pressure back there?
Bone Crusher
If you work to make money, you'll never be happy, as there's never enough money...if you work to take good care of people, the money will always be there....Sean O'Connell, 1999
If you have the I7 rack with the GIVI bags and you develope the cracks, BRP & your dealer will tell you it is the fault of the non-OEM
rack hitting the rear fender and you will pay for replacement yourself rather than have them replaced under warranty. Ask me how I know.
Whoops...that stinks...I have the BRP bags and racks...nothing hitting, obviously. From what I've read here, the rear fender seems fragile, regardless...
Bone Crusher
If you work to make money, you'll never be happy, as there's never enough money...if you work to take good care of people, the money will always be there....Sean O'Connell, 1999
The problem is actual contact with aftermarket luggage rack parts. This will occur if the rear shock is adjusted too soft, or if you hit a pothole. And yes, extra weight, of say, a passenger or luggage, will make it worse. Check the photo to see some contact marks. Later, several other indications showed up on both the fender and the brackets. If this continues, the fender will self-destruct.
Ok, I understand physical contact and that extra weight could be a factor if bottoming the suspension causes additional contact. I read that post as simply a weight factor alone.
But it is my understanding that people are losing fender brackets with no contact issues.
Doc went thru white a few of them, but I think his TURBO caused them to crack.
Apparently his turbo caused a lot more than just a fender crack!
Bone Crusher
If you work to make money, you'll never be happy, as there's never enough money...if you work to take good care of people, the money will always be there....Sean O'Connell, 1999
My understanding why the stock fender brackets crack/split is because when you attach the fender you have to push in on both side to bolt on the fender and we all know how the back fender vibrates/shakes on the spyders and the stress I guess is what make them split.
I also agree with Mr Orange the VTC fender look better as well, one solid piece don't know about any other bags but the corbin bags does not touch as the brackets don't use any of the fender holes for attachment.
Ok, I understand physical contact and that extra weight could be a factor if bottoming the suspension causes additional contact. I read that post as simply a weight factor alone.
But it is my understanding that people are losing fender brackets with no contact issues.
Are you saying there's no movement of the swingarm as you are riding down the road? That almost seems impossible; but, if you say so, I'll believe you.
I'm not home today to check, but aren't the fender brackets attached to the swingarm? It just seems to me that any swing arm movement would transmit to the brackets.
My suspicion is that something was seriously cracked before anything on Doc's Spyder failed!
Now now...okay, that's too funny to ignore!
Bone Crusher
If you work to make money, you'll never be happy, as there's never enough money...if you work to take good care of people, the money will always be there....Sean O'Connell, 1999
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