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    "I never use a battery tender. Ride it every day too and from work, 40 miles one way, so didn't figure I needed to. And this was happening before I started using my Gerbing this fall. However, loose connection is a definite possibility."

    I don't trust the Spyder Magneto setup to do a good job of charging---- I plug mine in basically every night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly;256004[I
    ]"I never use a battery tender. Ride it every day too and from work, 40 miles one way, so didn't figure I needed to. And this was happening before I started using my Gerbing this fall. However, loose connection is a definite possibility."[/I]

    I don't trust the Spyder Magneto setup to do a good job of charging---- I plug mine in basically every night.
    Good point. Keep in mind that the Spyder only puts out half the rated charging capacity at 4,000 rpm. Keep the rpm up!

    Also keep in mind that your battery may be reaching the end of its life, failing to take and hold a charge well. If the connections at the battery are good, and the ground connection to the frame, under the front console, is tight and clean, check the battery condition. You can also rig up a voltmeter to the battery then ride, and see how the voltmeter reacts when steering. The Spyder must be moving to make sure the DPS is fully engaged during this test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NancysToy View Post
    Good point. Keep in mind that the Spyder only puts out half the rated charging capacity at 4,000 rpm. Keep the rpm up!
    The vast majority of my trip is highway so I am running 77mph which equates to approximately 5600rpm, but something I'll keep in mind.

    Also keep in mind that your battery may be reaching the end of its life, failing to take and hold a charge well. If the connections at the battery are good, and the ground connection to the frame, under the front console, is tight and clean, check the battery condition. You can also rig up a voltmeter to the battery then ride, and see how the voltmeter reacts when steering. The Spyder must be moving to make sure the DPS is fully engaged during this test.
    I have already noticed the lights dim when I turn the handlebars at idle. Revving up the engine cures that, but the DPS still isn't there sometimes, regardless of rpm's and when it "cuts out/locks up" coming out of a parking lot I would say I am somewhere between 4000 - 5000rpm....just a rough guess going by sound of the engine as I am never looking at the dash making a maneuver like that.

    Like you said though, if the connections aren't loose, I'll head down the power supply lines. Like spark chasers everywhere say when troubleshooting, "Power, ground, and the last place someone worked."

    You bring up a good point though, no voltmeter or ammeter. Someone had a good set up on here for a digital voltmeter, but just haven't done it yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txknight67 View Post
    The vast majority of my trip is highway so I am running 77mph which equates to approximately 5600rpm, but something I'll keep in mind.

    I have already noticed the lights dim when I turn the handlebars at idle. Revving up the engine cures that, but the DPS still isn't there sometimes, regardless of rpm's and when it "cuts out/locks up" coming out of a parking lot I would say I am somewhere between 4000 - 5000rpm....just a rough guess going by sound of the engine as I am never looking at the dash making a maneuver like that.

    Like you said though, if the connections aren't loose, I'll head down the power supply lines. Like spark chasers everywhere say when troubleshooting, "Power, ground, and the last place someone worked."

    You bring up a good point though, no voltmeter or ammeter. Someone had a good set up on here for a digital voltmeter, but just haven't done it yet.
    The dimming lights are a good indication that the problem has an electrical origin. The DPS is the largest single draw on the Spyder system, short of the starter. Your problem could be a bad DPS, that draws too much amperage, but you said you also had the problem with the old DPS. Could be bad connections, which you are going to check. Don't forget the main machine ground to the frame at the front of the Spyder, as well as the battery connections. The problem could also be a tired battery.

    To check the battery yourself, you will need a volt-ohmmeter. You can get a decent one quite inexpensively at Sears, home improvement stores, Radio Shack, or auto parts stores, among others. Immediately after charging the battery fully (or a good long ride), the battery voltage will probably be over 13.0-13.5 volts, for a good battery and a full charge. After sitting overnight, a good battery should retain about 12.7 volts. The minimum charge retained after sitting overnight should be at least 12.4-12.5 volts. Any less and the battery won't hold a charge and should be replaced. The final test is a load test. While cranking the starter, the voltage should not drop below 10.0 volts. If it does, the battery is shot. Your dealer can do a more sophisticated load test. A battery that cannot pass a load test can also cause DPS problems, due to low voltage while turning.
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    My dealer has not received repalcement units. I need to leave for FL soon for the winter. Anyone in FL have a dealer to recommend; preferably one with dps replacements in stock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsteffey View Post
    My dealer has not received repalcement units. I need to leave for FL soon for the winter. Anyone in FL have a dealer to recommend; preferably one with dps replacements in stock?
    Send Docdoru, or Dave01, a PM and ask them about the dealer they use. I think they may be located in Clearwater, but I know they are very happy with the service they get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsteffey View Post
    My dealer has not received repalcement units. I need to leave for FL soon for the winter. Anyone in FL have a dealer to recommend; preferably one with dps replacements in stock?

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    I just called my dealer (Powersports of Greenville) to see if the DPS recall kits for the RT had come in yet. I was told that they spoke to Bombardier yesterday and were told that due to quality control issues with the initial kits that were installed, they had a moratorium on shipping any further kits out until the issues were resolved. Has anyone else heard about this?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SC_DOC View Post
    I just called my dealer (Powersports of Greenville) to see if the DPS recall kits for the RT had come in yet. I was told that they spoke to Bombardier yesterday and were told that due to quality control issues with the initial kits that were installed, they had a moratorium on shipping any further kits out until the issues were resolved. Has anyone else heard about this?

    I was supposed to have my DPS replaced with the next one that came in. This was back in the 3rd week of Sept. Talked to my dealer several times including Yesterday and they have yet to receive another new DPS. They've sent 5 back and are still waiting.

    If its a quality control issue? Fine, I'll wait til they get it sorted out. I've had two replaced on my 2008 GS, with last replacement in July. I don't want to have to go through this again and hope they get this issue corrected.
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    I got mine back Saturday morning... Temp in the mid-forties and raining too! I was just a bit too much in survival mode to notice much, but the 55 mile ride home DID indicate that the 's steering was a bit lighter and smoother... This week I'll wring it out some as the weather has to improve!
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    does anyone know if installing 18 in wheels and evo sway bar void factory warranty on can am spyder

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    Quote Originally Posted by SC_DOC View Post
    I just called my dealer (Powersports of Greenville) to see if the DPS recall kits for the RT had come in yet. I was told that they spoke to Bombardier yesterday and were told that due to quality control issues with the initial kits that were installed, they had a moratorium on shipping any further kits out until the issues were resolved. Has anyone else heard about this?

    Talked to my service manager Tuesday and he said he can't get a new DPS kit for and RT on the floor. He said the RS DPS kit, he doesn't have a problem with and has one with my name on it for Friday morning.

    I also told him about the 2nd update not being completed with the evap cannistor breather hose not extended and coming out the bottom, along with the new belt tension and front sprocket bolt to the new specs. He said that will all be taken care of on Friday.
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    I picked up my RT yesterday after having the DPS and rear shock recalls done I also had new locks put on - ignition, rear trunk and trailer. On my way home I realized that the turn signals wouldn't cancel after a turn so I called my dealer and set it up to bring it back on Thursday. Today I went for a ride and got about 5 miles from home when the engine light came on along with a picture of the handlebars. I stopped and shut it off and turned it back on and the lights went away. I couldn't find the handlebar icon in the manual but I'm assuming that it is the DPS. We kept riding and it came back on each leg of the trip so I'll have it checked out tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SC_DOC View Post
    I just called my dealer (Powersports of Greenville) to see if the DPS recall kits for the RT had come in yet. I was told that they spoke to Bombardier yesterday and were told that due to quality control issues with the initial kits that were installed, they had a moratorium on shipping any further kits out until the issues were resolved. Has anyone else heard about this?

    What issues?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3wheeler View Post
    does anyone know if installing 18 in wheels and evo sway bar void factory warranty on can am spyder
    The Evo Sway Bar will not void the warranty. You might have some serious issues with the 18 inch tires, and I highly doubt they will cover any problems caused by that tire choice.
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    After a 120 mile shakedown, I'd have to call this one an unqualified success! Thank you, BRP! There's no more mid-turn course corrections and the steering just seems to be much smoother.
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    Raptor did a good job explaining the "feel" of the new DPS. I've had mine about 3-4 weeks now and have put on around 350 miles on both one longer and a series of short rides to work. After realizing that I didn't have to man-handle it anymore, I got more used to the overall ride and drove more like a regular bike. I like it and don't miss having to over-compensate in long sweeping turns at high speeds (off-ramps in Texas).

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