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moving again .... up hill starts?
I preface this with I have been riding Harley for 4 years and Sports bikes Hayabusa Turbo - ZX6 ninja - Kitanna for about 15 years
is the RT clutch grabby? on a hill say U R stopped on a hill
when starting out just past the friction point of letting the clutch out and the roll throttle on it seems to drop the clutch hard and stall without a bit more throttle then I would think necesarry for a smooth take off.
on a 2 wheel, I hold the hill w/ rear brake (foot Brake) and then add throttle and reduce clutch until it pulls against the brake and then release foot brake and ride on up the hill .. doesnt seem to work on the can am ...
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Originally Posted by clueless
I preface this with I have been riding Harley for 4 years and Sports bikes Hayabusa Turbo - ZX6 ninja - Kitanna for about 15 years
is the RT clutch grabby? on a hill say U R stopped on a hill
when starting out just past the friction point of letting the clutch out and the roll throttle on it seems to drop the clutch hard and stall without a bit more throttle then I would think necesarry for a smooth take off.
on a 2 wheel, I hold the hill w/ rear brake (foot Brake) and then add throttle and reduce clutch until it pulls against the brake and then release foot brake and ride on up the hill .. doesnt seem to work on the can am ...
Don't know about the RT, I have a GS. I've been riding for 35/40 years and owned all makes of bikes[except Harley's] The Spyder has faults but the 5 speed is not one of them. It is the best shifting trans I've ever had bar none!! And that includes the clutch action starting off on a hill.
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Motorbike Professor
Every motorcycle clutch seems to be different, and each takes some getting used to. The RT clutch is quite "sudden", however, so it has less feel, and less travel, than the RS or most hydraulic clutch motorcycles I have ridden. The Spyder also is a high rpm engine, too, so you cannot merely torque away from a stop, like with a Harley or Goldwing. It takes a bit more gas, especially on a hill or when pulling a trailer. Just the nature of the beast. I'm sure you'll get used to it.
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
2011 RT-622 trailer, Aspen Sentry popup camper, custom motorcycle trailer to pull behind the Spyder
Mutant Trikes Forever!
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Another thing I've noticed is 1st is geared a bit tall, so slipping the clutch a bit is necessary.
Last edited by spyryder; 08-09-2010 at 09:00 PM.
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Motorbike Professor
Originally Posted by spyryder
Another thing I've noticed is 1st is geared a bit tall, so slipping the clutch a bit is necessary.
It is tall, but not that bad. I have accidentally started out in second many times, and third once. Now those gears are tall!
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
2011 RT-622 trailer, Aspen Sentry popup camper, custom motorcycle trailer to pull behind the Spyder
Mutant Trikes Forever!
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thanks so its not me ...
it makes sense it doesn't have the torque of the Harley but all the sports bikes are all hp and no torque and they do just fine as well.
guess I have to get used to slipping the clutch more ... just feels like I am burning up my clutch more then needed
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Originally Posted by NancysToy
Every motorcycle clutch seems to be different, and each takes some getting used to. The RT clutch is quite "sudden", however, so it has less feel, and less travel, than the RS or most hydraulic clutch motorcycles I have ridden. The Spyder also is a high rpm engine, too, so you cannot merely torque away from a stop, like with a Harley or Goldwing. It takes a bit more gas, especially on a hill or when pulling a trailer. Just the nature of the beast. I'm sure you'll get used to it.
yeah sudden is a good description ... it goes from friction zone to full on like it needs a stronger clutch spring ...
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Originally Posted by boborgera
It is the best shifting trans I've ever had bar none!! And that includes the clutch action starting off on a hill.
I agree that the RT-S transmission is one of the best I have ever ridden. That goes for Honda's, Kawa's, and Yamaha's! Have yet to hit a false shift.
Thanks Jim - a.k.a. SpyderRider
"Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny".
~ Thomas Jefferson
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Motorbike Professor
Originally Posted by clueless
yeah sudden is a good description ... it goes from friction zone to full on like it needs a stronger clutch spring ...
It seems to be a clutch travel thing, to me. Smaller master cylinder reservoir on the RT indicates that it could also have a smaller piston. The ratio between the master cylinder piston and clutch actuator is critical, and tiny differences affect the system greatly. There is also no adjustment for free play, so you can never be assured of full travel. Whatever the design cause, it is sudden, and is not adjustable, so we have to get used to it. If anybody burns up a clutch, BRP will make warranty repairs, and if that breaks out in a rash, they will address changes in the design. Until then, we are gonna have to learn its ways. Not a problem for me...I had to learn to deal with hydraulic clutches, period! Nancy's Spyder is the only other one of the 25 that has a hydraulic clutch. I am still a cable fan.
-Scotty
2011 Spyder RTS-SM5 (mine)
2000 BMW R1100RTP, motorized tricycle & 23 vintage bikes
2011 RT-622 trailer, Aspen Sentry popup camper, custom motorcycle trailer to pull behind the Spyder
Mutant Trikes Forever!
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Originally Posted by clueless
I preface this with I have been riding Harley for 4 years and Sports bikes Hayabusa Turbo - ZX6 ninja - Kitanna for about 15 years
is the RT clutch grabby? on a hill say U R stopped on a hill
when starting out just past the friction point of letting the clutch out and the roll throttle on it seems to drop the clutch hard and stall without a bit more throttle then I would think necesarry for a smooth take off.
on a 2 wheel, I hold the hill w/ rear brake (foot Brake) and then add throttle and reduce clutch until it pulls against the brake and then release foot brake and ride on up the hill .. doesnt seem to work on the can am ...
I got used to it fairly quickly.
Chris
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