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    Default Different Mirrors for RS/GS ???

    Does anyone know if there are any aftermarket mirrors in the works to replace the stock units on the RS/GS ?

    I thought I heard once that Magic Man might be working on such an item?

    I've got the kewlmetal extenders --- but my mirrors still move too easily.

    I guess my other option is switching to the ESI 'up and out' mirror extensions. Do those 'lock' into place better than the kewlmetal ones?

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    I tried moving mirrors to handlebars. Any generic mirror will mount with an "L" bracket.

    I thought they were too close, and still vibrated. I went back and used hard plastic spacers and silicone to tighten OEM mirrors with extensions.







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    I was going to get extenders, but I installed some Emgo bar end mirrors instead. They solved the problem completely and are much cheaper and easier to install. Also, by keeping the stock bar end plugs, if you ever sell the Spyder, you can replace the plugs and re-use the Emgos on any other bike with 7/8 inch bars.

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    My Kewlmetal mirror extensions move too easily as well. At highway speeds, they will not stay in place and the wind pushes them forward and I can not see out of them. The screws are tightened as much as possible, so that is not the issue. I need the extension because with my 4" riser my hand is right in the mirror if they are just stock. What I have done for the time being is used plastic like a shim to prevent the mirrors from coming too far forward. It isn't a perfect solution but it definitely helps.
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    Guys,

    I have not had this issue with my kewlmetal extensions. You should be able to tighten the bolt enough to snug them down. It's an 8mm bolt so it should easily take 17 ft-lbs of torque and up to 22 ft-lbs without issues.

    The only other thing I can think of is perhaps there is some powder coating down in the bore for the plastic bushing. Powder coat is surprisingly slippery in an application like this because it is essentially a plastic coating. So sanding out the powder coat and roughing up that surface a little bit will help quite a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Matt View Post
    Guys,

    I have not had this issue with my kewlmetal extensions. You should be able to tighten the bolt enough to snug them down. It's an 8mm bolt so it should easily take 17 ft-lbs of torque and up to 22 ft-lbs without issues.

    The only other thing I can think of is perhaps there is some powder coating down in the bore for the plastic bushing. Powder coat is surprisingly slippery in an application like this because it is essentially a plastic coating. So sanding out the powder coat and roughing up that surface a little bit will help quite a bit.

    Mad Matt
    The Kewl Metal mirror extensions were one of my first mods. Although they don't move around (like Deb's), they do vibrate a lot...is there any way to settle this down at high speeds? For example, with speaker installation in cars, they use that material that completely dampens vibration...can any of that be installed between the parts to help reduce vibration (while still looking good)? I see that someone above used silicone, but I think a vibration dampening option would likely be better...

    Any ideas? I love the mirrors but this is the one complaint that is common amongst owners of the Kewl Metal mirror extensions.

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    I'm going to order the ESI ones and give them a shot... gotta be better than the kewlmetal slosh I have right now.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bone crusher View Post
    The Kewl Metal mirror extensions were one of my first mods. Although they don't move around (like Deb's), they do vibrate a lot...is there any way to settle this down at high speeds? For example, with speaker installation in cars, they use that material that completely dampens vibration...can any of that be installed between the parts to help reduce vibration (while still looking good)? I see that someone above used silicone, but I think a vibration dampening option would likely be better...

    Any ideas? I love the mirrors but this is the one complaint that is common amongst owners of the Kewl Metal mirror extensions.
    Thats a tough one. Any extension will increase the vibration out at the mirror. Perhaps adding weight like a handlebar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Matt View Post
    Guys,

    I have not had this issue with my kewlmetal extensions. You should be able to tighten the bolt enough to snug them down. It's an 8mm bolt so it should easily take 17 ft-lbs of torque and up to 22 ft-lbs without issues.

    The only other thing I can think of is perhaps there is some powder coating down in the bore for the plastic bushing. Powder coat is surprisingly slippery in an application like this because it is essentially a plastic coating. So sanding out the powder coat and roughing up that surface a little bit will help quite a bit.

    Mad Matt
    Matt,
    I appreciate all your advice, but I am going to give the In & Out's a try. Trust me, I have these things torqued tight and they aren't getting any tighter but the mirrors are floppy. Just riding down the road, they move and in the wind they move forward and I can't see. I am using plastic shims right now just to prevent them from moving too close to me. I am trading these in for the others. I still know you make great products and probably just got a bad set. I do not plan on leaving any poor remarks on your product. You make quality stuff and I am sure there are some things on your site we would be interested in in the future.

    I do have to say though, I have had great experiences with Evan and all of his products so far. I look forward to trying out his mirrors.
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    If you put an 8mm star washer like the one shown below, under the head of the bolt, it will lock the bushing down. Let me know if you need me to send you a pair of washers, I would be happy to.



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    [QUOTE=Firefly;
    I've got the kewlmetal extenders --- but my mirrors still move too easily.

    I guess my other option is switching to the ESI 'up and out' mirror extensions. Do those 'lock' into place better than the kewlmetal ones?[/QUOTE]

    The ESI up and outs DO lock inplace PLUS they are UP AND OUT. Shoulders no longer in picture. Other than the glass area being a tad small, they work very well.

    Thanks, ESI!!
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