RIDE-ON "vs" SLIME

[BajaRon]

Got my Ride-on today...now need some warm weather to put it in and ride...might have to wait a bit for this!...looking forward to installing though...

There are several good ways to warm the Ride-On so it goes in more easily. You don't have to ride it after you put it in like some products.

[bone crusher]

There are several good ways to warm the Ride-On so it goes in more easily. You don't have to ride it after you put it in like some products.

Cool...George said to ride it for a little while after you put it in to spread it...if those with experience here haven't had the need for that, then all I need is some time and a warm day (more so as my garage is cold...not too worried about the product...am keeping it indoors, for now)...

I'm a bit afraid I'll break the darn valve stem core, but apparently, with the tool, it's easy enough to take out, squeeze the stuff in, and then put the core back in and pump up?

[bjt]

Cool...George said to ride it for a little while after you put it in to spread it...if those with experience here haven't had the need for that, then all I need is some time and a warm day (more so as my garage is cold...not too worried about the product...am keeping it indoors, for now)...

I'm a bit afraid I'll break the darn valve stem core, but apparently, with the tool, it's easy enough to take out, squeeze the stuff in, and then put the core back in and pump up?

You don't have to ride immediately after putting in the Ride-On but, when it's first put in the tires, it will be pooled at the bottom. Just know that the first ride after putting it in the tires, there will be about 20 minutes of initial ride time to allow the Ride-On to spread out evenly inside the tire. It's easiest to get that ride done right after putting the Ride-On in when you can do it at controlled speeds, road and traffic conditions instead of waiting until you have to go somewhere and then experiencing the harsher ride in stop and go traffic or doing 80 down the expressway.

Breaking the valve core shouldn't be a concern. Losing it would be more of what I would worry about. If you take it out with pressure in the tire, the escaping air can shoot it out of your hands and it's so small, it's easily lost. Either be very careful when removing it under pressure or deflate the tire before removing the core.

[Lamonster]

And if the Spyder has been sitting for some time and it's real cold it will be way out of balance until you put a few miles on it. Had that happen to me in Daytona after not riding it for months. It's all good now.

[ameobe]

Thanks, Good points & well taken. Time to order Rideon.

The short response would be "You are right". Especially if we are talking about big wheels and tires like a lifted 4x4 truck.

But if we are talking about the 3 wheels/tires on the Spyder my opinion is that balancing is an unnecessary expense that won't provide any benefit.

I was doubtful that Ride-On alone would balance Lamonts rear tire. He had a ton of wheel weights on his. I wish I could remember how much. He had twice as many squares as I did (10) and they were heavier squares as well.

But we stripped off the weights and put Ride-On in and it balanced perfectly! I knew mine would be no sweat after that.

Ride-On is like any other manufacturer. They will recommend the best possible course of action even if it is overkill for your particular application. You can't blame them. They have no way of knowing what wheel/tire you have or how much balance you'll need. They don't want to claim their product will cure all balance issues because it won't.

Restricting my response to small wheels and tires like we have on the Spyder, my experience is that, except for bad out of balance situations, Ride-On will do as good or better job of balancing than weights alone, with or without the weights. This is because Ride-On is dynamic (constantly adjusts to the conditions) whereas wheel weights are static.

Some people get the wrong idea because a dynamic wheel balancer is used to determine how much and where to put the static weight. But the end result is still static (lead weights stuck to the rim).

Because weights are static your wheel will be balanced at some speeds and less balanced at other speeds. There is no way around it. With Ride-On you will get balancing at any speed.

As the tire wears, balance is affected. With wheel weights alone you may require another balance or you get increased tire wear.

But your question concerns wheel weights plus Ride-On. In the case of our Spyders, balancing the wheel with weights and then putting Ride-On in certainly won't hurt, but the weights are most likely unnecessary. If the wheel/tire is so out of balance that Ride-On can't fix it, it is very likely that a serious issue is causing the problem, like out of round, cord seperation, etc.

I have heard that some balancing machines have trouble mounting our wheels (I don't know because I've never had mine balanced). But if this is true, even more benefit to using Ride-On.

[BajaRon]

Cool...George said to ride it for a little while after you put it in to spread it...if those with experience here haven't had the need for that, then all I need is some time and a warm day (more so as my garage is cold...not too worried about the product...am keeping it indoors, for now)...

I'm a bit afraid I'll break the darn valve stem core, but apparently, with the tool, it's easy enough to take out, squeeze the stuff in, and then put the core back in and pump up?

I should clarify my ("not necessary to ride right away after putting Ride-On in) statement.

Some liquid sealers must be ridden right away or they may coagulate at the bottom and will never disperse. If this happens it has to be removed or you'll never get balance.

It is best to ride Ride-On right away because it will disperse more readily than if you allow it to lay in the bottom of the tire for several days. But even if you do allow it to pool for long periods it will still disperse and balance the tire. It may take a few miles though.

Sorry if I mislead anyone on this.

[TuckMiddle]

I have taken down a Ride-On wheel and the wheel was fine.

Lamont,

When you "dismount" a front tire to switch it, do you add any more Ride-on or do you just put it on the other wheel and let 'er run? I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything important about the tire swap. Haven't seen anything about cleaning it out and replacing it, just making sure.
Thanks
Tuck

[johnwinslow]

I read this whole thread, finally went to the Ride On web site, the installation instructions are all there.
i found some automotive Ride On at amazon.com. 14.95 per bottle/ free shipping if you do not mind waiting.

http://www.ride-onshop.com/auto_form...stallation.pdf

[retread]

I read this whole thread, finally went to the Ride On web site, the installation instructions are all there.
i found some automotive Ride On at amazon.com. 14.95 per bottle/ free shipping if you do not mind waiting.

http://www.ride-onshop.com/auto_form...stallation.pdf

Just be sure to put the right amount in each tire, I think they've got the info on their website.

john

[spyder@sg]

Do you guys need to remove the tires to put ride-on into the tires, especially the rear tire, since it quite hard to get to the valve?

[Campverdefela]

Do you guys need to remove the tires to put ride-on into the tires, especially the rear tire, since it quite hard to get to the valve?

Can be done, it comes with a tube but you could always match up a longer one.

[Eagle Eye]

From using both I have found that Ride On is best. Many friends have warned me that Slime does corrode over time.
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[frank3]

I have used Ride-On in all 3 tires on my RT-S for over 2 years, 3 new rear tires, one set of new front tires and 25,000 miles. I don't have any wheel weights on any of the rims. My experience has been "very satisified". As I understand it, "Slime" is not rated for over the road use and is intended for off road use and lower speeds but I could be wrong about that. A note when ordering Ride-On, if you order several bottles, it usually comes with only one peice of tubing. I prefer to use a new peice of tubing each time I put it in so I went to the local hardware store and purchased 10' of tygon tubing. Just cut off a peice each time I need it. BTW, I have never had a flat tire on the RT-S yet.

[boborgera]

". As I understand it, "Slime" is not rated for over the road use and is intended for off road use and lower speeds but I could be wrong about that..

You have to look at warning on the for tubeless container very careful, in Very fine print ''Not for speeds over 45 mph.'' temporary use only. Not that everyone pays attention to that.

[SpyderRider]

I use Ride-On in my Spyder, my F-150 Harley-Davidson S/C Truck, and when I need to replace the tires on my new Suzuki Hayabusa, I'll put it in that beast as well! Works great...I did a lot of research into the Ride-On versus Slime and hands down RO came out ahead every time...Slime corrodes, RO does not. Slime does not balance the tires, RO does...enough said!!!

[johnwinslow]

some thing i found on the ride on site if there is no difference it seems the 32oz is the best price
http://www.ride-onshop.com/Products-AUTO_and_SUV.html

http://www.ride-onshop.com/Products-ATV_and_UTV.html

[Bumblebee67]

I thought Lamont said to be sure to get the Ride-On labeled "Auto" ....not the motorcycle or the atv kind???. Also, since they are no longer on our sponser page...do you think they will still give us spyderlovers a discount????

[bone crusher]

I thought Lamont said to be sure to get the Ride-On labeled "Auto" ....not the motorcycle or the atv kind???. Also, since they are no longer on our sponser page...do you think they will still give us spyderlovers a discount????

b

buy the auto and type in 'lamonster' in the coupon code section (something like that)...I would be surprised if you still don't get the 10% off...and, even if you don't, buy the stuff...it's excellent!