Electric Spyder next?

[Gwolf]

All kind of new inovations, but how much do they cost, and how long will they last?

[Peacekeeper6]

To me, the only turn-off of the EV lifestyle is the charging stations.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

To me, the only turn-off of the EV lifestyle is the charging stations.

.... I just heard - how many they have in Vermont .....408 for the entire State .....we only have a population of approx. 350,000 ... which means 857.8 people have to share ONE charger ..... I guarantee you if the Administration changes in 24 , all this EV silliness will come to a stop ,... I have Nothing against EV's, however they should have built the infrastructure FIRST ....JMHO ....Mike

[Peteoz]

That would leave the potential for a lot of people stranded on a snow covered mountain without the means to recharge the batteries

Na……all you need to do is replace your trunk with a petrol generator, 2RTs……problem solved

Pete

[gkamer]

With BRP's track record for obtaining even simple replacement electronic components, if anything ever went wrong with an electric Spyder you'd probably die of old age waiting for parts to arrive.

[Lee0123]

I'm interested in seeing what Can Am comes up with. When Tesla came out people poo pooed them; "not far enough", "not enough stations", "too long to charge", blah, blah, blah. Now everywhere you go there is a Tesla, Toyota, Honda or whatever EV. Their mapping sofware shows you where the chargers are and alerts you when you should charge. EV charging stations are being added all the time. When my barber put in a new shop he chose the new site because it had 4 electric charging stations nearby, maybe 100 feet front his door. Grocery stores, hotels, and restraunts around here are adding them too.

The guy at my my local BMW motorcycle shop has been riding one of those BMW C Evolution electric scooters year round for at least 3 years. 50 mile round trip. He absolutley loves it.

Are they for everyone and every climate? Nope, not now, but with the rate that technology is changing they could be in the next few years.

I'm interested in them and may buy something like a Zero or an electric BMW motorcycle or scooter at some point.

[Pirate]

So this is the headline I saw the other day "Toyota is planning a new EV with a 900-mile range and 10-minute charging time: ‘The holy grail of battery vehicles" So never say never say never. I have also seen some new tech with solar power (like a panel) that comes in a roll you roll it out hook it up and it generates power. I never thought everyone would have a phone in their pocket let alone a computer in there too so I'm not a naysayer anymore.

What they don't tell you is the replacement cost of the batteries when they fail. A Tesla battery is between 5-7k.

[Deanna777]

I can say I will not be a customer of any electric Spyder

I won't be a customer of any electric spyder.



I think that the electric snowmobiles will be for the places that offer group rides for people who are visiting. Example: Tourist areas.

Also, the tourist areas will have the range, and a loop/area for them to ride. What about the charging stations?

(off topic, I am a snowmobile rider; when I ride my gas-powered sled, I usually ride about 80 to 100 miles a day round trip).

What happens if someone is on the trail with an electric snowmobile, and they break down/run the battery flat in the middle of nowhere, and there is no charging station nearby to charge the snowmobile. I am just putting the above out there.

Deanna

[hut1]

What they don't tell you is the replacement cost of the batteries when they fail. A Tesla battery is between 5-7k.

With the steady advancement in battery technology, that cost continues to go down. If the battery health on my Tesla Model Y goes below 70% during the warranty period (8yrs/120k miles) Tesla will replace it for free.

[CloverHillCrawler]

What they don't tell you is the replacement cost of the batteries when they fail. A Tesla battery is between 5-7k.

In the case of a new Hyundai Ioniq 5 even if you scratch the battery cover(on the bottom of the vehicle) the warranty is voided and the battery has to be replaced at a cost of $60,000 Canada dollars... more than the original purchase price of the car.

The guy had to make an insurance claim and they totaled the car.

So much for being green just think of all of the emissions that went into building that car and it is trashed not even a year later.

Who is going to pay for the privilege of buying a new battery that costs more than a brand new car?

Plus the fallacy of the batteries themselves of being green. All they are doing is creating more carbon somewhere else down the line.

If you want to go "green" go with hydrogen cells.

[BigPoppa]

If an electric Spyder was available when I bought my F3 Limited I would have bought it instead…probably. Just before switching to 3 wheels, one of my bikes was an Energica Ribelle. Awesome ride. I used it for both commuting and light touring. If an electric Spyder has a 150 mile freeway range at 70’ish mph and DC charging (at least 3kw but ideally 6kw) it would only take about 30 minutes to recharge based on charge times for my Energica (3kw).

Both of my cars (Tesla and Bolt) are electric and my Tesla is my road trip EV which I’ve take from the SF Bay Area to Southern California, Seattle, and Las Vegas. I doubt any more cross country trips are in my future so in my case, EVs do just fine.

As was mentioned before, with the right electric motors, the acceleration never gets old, especially when I had my Ribelle and also in my Model Y Performance.

[PMK]

I have ridden a friends Zero electric street bike. It is neat, kinda quick but certainly no 1000cc sportbike.

Friends Tesla Plaid, that car is very quick. My friend and owner of the Plaid is a former IMSA and Indy car driver. When he rings out the car, you best be ready. The acceleration buries you completely in the seat. With the suspension changes he made, not only is the car quick, but corners impressive and the big brakes compliment the package.

As for an electric Spyder. Maybe we would get one, but I certainly would not sign up until I got a real test ride to see how it does.

Also, it sounds like state governments are going to charge a yearly EV tax for EV’s and hybrids with plug in. My wife’s hybrid is not a plug in version, so all vehicle motion is generated from gasoline. Therefore no EV tax on hers. EV motorcycles that plug in are getting the tax if and when it passes.

[Leaping1]

Why not? Usually with electric comes gobs of torque and many cool gadgets. The only downside side would be range if you do long trips. In a few years, I'd consider it...

I live in rural South Carolina and it can be scary trying to find a Gas pump and a charging station would be a joke.

[Mikey]

It's going to happen, it will be interesting to see the finish product. I am not going to be the Debbie downer till I see it! Do any of you remember what a cell phone looked like back when? TV's, ect,ect! Ten years ago would you ever thought you would watch track racing, with electric cars out there, or motorcycles? Embrace it boys and girls, it's going to happen even if we hate it!

[AndysF3S]

For those that have purchased and enjoy their EV's great, and don't forget that most were bought with taxpayer subsidies that came from borrowed money. As far as being better for "climate change" only in the minds of those that are pushing this narrative. It seems they don't tell you where the batteries and technology is coming from and no one is talking about building new green power plants and who will pay for those even if they could get the permits to build some (not in my backyard sydrome).
Sources of energy will change when they are competitive and reliable not when the VIP fly arround in private jets while you are supposed to buy EV.
Last point look at the fianancial statements and latest news from the EV manufacturers who have lost $B (Ford) and are now stepping back from the "I have to be first because its new technology"?JMO

[Motorcycledave]

Why not? Usually with electric comes gobs of torque and many cool gadgets. The only downside side would be range if you do long trips. In a few years, I'd consider it...

If they don't have the range of my current Spyder, F3S " and they will not" I would not be a customer for any elect bike.
I have tested out the ZERO and yes it's fast but you better bring something else to ride home, if you want to ride in the Sierras.

[GrayRyder]

One of the things that no EV manufacturer tells you about EVs is that when the temperature drops, the range drops even more. With temps at 20 degrees F and below, they can lose 40% or more of their "claimed" range. What good is that for a snowmobile? It is not good for cars either if you live in a place that gets real winter. As others here have said, there is nothing "green" about them. Producing one EV emits as much carbon monoxide as the average gas powered vehicle emits over the course of being driven 150,000 miles. Also, you can look up lithium mining and see what that does to the environment. Not to mention cobalt mines and the young kids in the Congo that are being paid peanuts to stand knee deep in toxic chemicals to mine cobalt. The narratives that push EVs are a scam.

[ARtraveler]

So this is the headline I saw the other day "Toyota is planning a new EV with a 900-mile range and 10-minute charging time: ‘The holy grail of battery vehicles" So never say never say never. I have also seen some new tech with solar power (like a panel) that comes in a roll you roll it out hook it up and it generates power. I never thought everyone would have a phone in their pocket let alone a computer in there too so I'm not a naysayer anymore.

I WILL believe it when I see it. I am still waiting for BRP--electric anything. You all remember my April Fool announcement several years back showing BRP's "picture" of an electric Spyder. Turns out, it did not even have an engine in it. And that is no joke.

[IGETAROUND]

Gwolf wrote"Another good reason is a lot of houses burn down during flooding from hurricanes and tropical storms in Florida, caused by electric vehicles going partially under water. "

Not trying to start a pissing match Gwolf but I'd be really interested to see the statistics about this actually happening. Sounds like a factoid without any basis.

Al in Kazoo

[tntnj]

I would never but an electric bike or car , Battery replacement cost and range are a turn off. My brother in law bought an electric car and had the battery replaced by the dealer twice, once because of a fire risk and for a faulty part in the battery pack. And if you get in to an accident with an electric car/truck there is a good chance for it to catch on fire with you in it.

[Pirate]

With the steady advancement in battery technology, that cost continues to go down. If the battery health on my Tesla Model Y goes below 70% during the warranty period (8yrs/120k miles) Tesla will replace it for free.

Just remember, that is 8 years or 120k whichever comes FIRST.

[Gwolf]

Gwolf wrote"Another good reason is a lot of houses burn down during flooding from hurricanes and tropical storms in Florida, caused by electric vehicles going partially under water. "

Not trying to start a pissing match Gwolf but I'd be really interested to see the statistics about this actually happening. Sounds like a factoid without any basis.

Al in Kazoo

Ain't gonna debate it. It happens. You won't see it in the mainstream news, because it does not fit their narrative. You will see it in the local news, local papers, and local TV.

You are more than welcome to drive an electric car into your swimming pool and watch what happens. Once they catch on fire, there is plenty of eyewitness accounts and fire department reports documenting how hard it is to put them out.

[Gwolf]

Additional information, including more specific information and recommendations for electric and hybrid vehicles which have been submerged or partially sumbmerged in salt water.

CBS news report on some EVs bursting into flames after storm surge of hurricane Idelia;

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hurrica...20electrolyte.

[Mikey]

This is better than an oil thread!!

[blackphoenix38]

With BRP's track record for obtaining even simple replacement electronic components, if anything ever went wrong with an electric Spyder you'd probably die of old age waiting for parts to arrive.

so much this. They can't even fix what they have now. You think the BRP dealer network and whatever techs they have are going to want to deal with electric spyders or rykers.

plus.. as everyone has stated allready. EV's are not actually better for the environment, then carbon foot print is just in a different spot in the process.