Spyder owners are stuck up - why is this so?? Please explain...
I purchased my 2016 F3S to take the place of my Kawasaki 1500 Mean Streak.
Spyder riders who are just getting into riding may not be aware that it is traditional to recognize an on coming rider by giving the V salute or high sign etc. when passing one another.
If you moved up to a Spyder from a traditional 2 wheel bike you will know what I am referring to; then maybe you never acknowledged another rider period.
A buddy and I just completed a charity ride this past Sunday 11/19 and there were a few Spyders that attended, NONE of which were outgoing aka friendly.
Can someone explain to me why that IS?
I live in Cumming, GA
Sincerely,
ROTAX
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 11-21-2023 at 03:53 PM.
I am not a "waver" but will wave back if you wave first. I'm not stuck up I just don't tend to acknowledge every bike rider I pass no matter how many wheels they have. If we meet I will talk your ears off and even offer to pay for the coffee or whatever. If I see you sitting by the roadside or pulled off at the edge of a parking area I will always stop to see if assistance is needed. Motorcycling is like any other activity and you get little Groups or cliques of people that just don't acknowledge anybody outside of their little world. It is what it is and that's fine by me. 90% of my riding and touring is done alone and I prefer it that way. Riding is not a group activity for me. Don't take it personally if I don't wave.
Back in the old days All cyclists waved ..... now in Vermont ...most don't ..... I have encountered quite a few Spyder drivers don't wave back ..... IMHO it's the times we now live in ..... Mike
Back in the old days All cyclists waved ..... now in Vermont ...most don't ..... I have encountered quite a few Spyder drivers don't wave back ..... IMHO it's the times we now live in ..... Mike
and the New Generation , this is not the Good Ol' Days.
and the New Generation , this is not the Good Ol' Days.
I have been accused of living in the 60's. I always ask, 'What was wrong with the 60's?'. Other than the Vietnam war, I've never gotten an answer. I loved my 68 Camaro SS!
I have been accused of living in the 60's. I always ask, 'What was wrong with the 60's?'. Other than the Vietnam war, I've never gotten an answer. I loved my 68 Camaro SS!
And a lot better music in the 60s and 70s. Engines in everything that you could fix a a screwdriver and a couple of wrenches. Nobody walking around with their face in a cell phone, totally un-aware of what was going on around them, and Gunsmoke on TV. People graduated from school knowing how to count, read, and write. Nothing at all wrong with the 60s. The war was bad, but we got plenty of wars going on right now. They are bad for the ones fighting in them, but the general public is not even aware of most of it.
I have been accused of living in the 60's. I always ask, 'What was wrong with the 60's?'. Other than the Vietnam war, I've never gotten an answer. I loved my 68 Camaro SS!
I should have kept my de-badged 67 RS/SS 350. I found out after purchase it had been in a wreck, the OEM wheels were gone along with the badging. I was young when I got it in early 68.
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I wave if I see them coming. Not always the case as sometimes I'm either enjoying the scenery or behind a vehicle and don't see them coming. The only exception is the squids on the crotch rockets that never wave. Then again, they're probably too busy holding on for their lives with both hands, especially when they got their front wheel up in the air. Also, when on a group ride or attending a motorcycle rally it's kinda an unwritten rule that you don't need to wave. Probably because your left hand would be off the grip all day.
As a rider of a motorcycle I enjoy the comradery the "wave" provides. To me it says "I see you" and "Hello fellow rider". We may be from different worlds, but we have this in common.
What I notice is that in most cases the group that tend to not wave or wave back are of the younger generation. A lot tend to not wear any gear (That's how I can see about how old they are) and drive aggressively as if traffic is there to get in their way. This is just my observation. I don't care if you're a 58 year old executive on a 70K Harley or a 20 year old on a $50 beat up Honda, I will wave.
On my ride home from the dealer with my new Spyder, I was waved at by a Harley Rider. Go figure. It will be interesting to see what riders around me think when I'm out and about on my normal commute and travels in the Spyder.
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I give the 3-finger wave. I don't care if they wave back. I don't think they are "stuck up" or whatever. We are bereft with curvy mountain roads here and I can easily wave through turns. Very few others can or do. I still don't care. It's just not worth my time.
Lew L
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 11-22-2023 at 05:16 AM.
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Ain't stuck up, just don't care. Thousands of bikes on the roads in Florida. I ain't gonna wave at all of them. Might give them the low wave if there is a solo rider that waves. If there is a line of 50 bikes, might wave at the first one. The rest of them will just have to feel ignored. Forty years ago, might see 4 or 5 other bikes if you rode half a day. Now you see 50 to 100 on the busy roads. Most of them are from out of state. They haul the bikes down here in the winter, leave the tow vehicle at the motel with the trailer, and go riding in the 70 degree winter weather here, while it is 15 degrees where they live.
frogman Dave said it all. Midwestern folks are so much more friendly!
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I have lived in mid-western states, and been in about every one of the 50 states many times, including the far flung 2 states and most of the territories. I don't find any particular area to be more friendly or less friendly than any other area. There are good, friendly people in every state and territory. There are also butt holes in every state and territory. Mostly, if you treat other people like you want to be treated, they are friendly enough. Same applies to foreign countries. Good people and bad people in every one of them. Even the ones who have governments un-friendly to our country, many of the common people, not involved in politics are friendly. I was air crew when I was much younger than I am now. Met and dealt with people all over this country and anywhere else in the Pacific waters on west to the Indian Ocean. People are the same everywhere, some good, some bad, and not a mojority either way.
Just my opinion and observations....... and I believe most military who moved a lot, and others who did a lot of traveling would agree.
Rotax, you need to relax more on your rides ……how can you guarantee that those riders have not made some kind of acknowledgement without you watching them like a hawk, rather than the road ahead of you (not a wise choice). Besides, all that should matter to YOU, is that YOU acknowledge THEM, if that is your want …….. what THEY do is THEIR decision, for any one of a hundred reasons, which may have nothing to do with “friendliness” or being “stuck up”. I am far more interested in the ride itself, rather than peripheral issues like checking oncoming riders for a perceived “slight”. It makes for a far more enjoyable experience
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this topic has been brought up before, just recently and a few years ago. The one a few years ago, topic was "sissy wave". Just don't get caught up in your mind that its mandatory that each rider MUST wave, and you'll be OK. Sometimes I wave and sometimes I don't. If I'm on a leisure ride, I remember to do wave. Going back and forth to work (47 miles one way), I don't.
can search in the search box "wave" and get the other threads on this subject.
Agree with all above, but original post mentioned riders new to the sport as well. I am fairly old, started riding a Honda in ‘70s, but can still remember it was quite while before either hand left a grip unless I was stopped. And, even now 50 years after that Honda, I’m still one of the riders Lew L referred to - giving a wave in a curve or while cornering depends entirely on the moment, not my friendliness….
I wave at everyone...... bikes, trikes, scooters...... But sometimes my mind is on riding or looking at scenery and the wave doesn't happen or is late. Never thought people were stuck up if they didn't wave at me. I think most people are friendly and I enjoy waving at and meeting them..... Jim
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I am a waver and will talk your ear off if we meet up. It bothers me when others don't wave back, but it feels worse if I don't wave to acknowledge them.
...Wave or no wave, it is a simple process for me. If I see you and I feel safe I will wave. I have always erred on giving a wave to everyone. I have never thought about how to get someone to wave back. I just let it go.
So just do it and let it go. A wave can make things easier for everyone. So here's a 'Big Wave' to you.
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