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A question or two for those who carry firearms on them when riding
Has anyone been in a situation while riding their Spyder when they had to use their firearm for protection?
Have you ever had to use your weapon for protection when riding?
Do you think riding in America is more dangerous than in other countries where personal firearms are not allowed?
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Originally Posted by UtahPete
Has anyone been in a situation while riding when a firearm had to be used for protection?
Yes, got caught in a crossfire one time on the road with the HA and Mongols. It even made the news...
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Originally Posted by Pirate
Yes, got caught in a crossfire one time on the road with the HA and Mongols. It even made the news...
WOW Glad you are OK
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Originally Posted by UtahPete
Has anyone been in a situation while riding their Spyder when they had to use their firearm for protection?
I think if that situation were to arise, one should use their brakes and or their throttle and leave the area as rapidly as possible. Exit stage left or right ASAP!
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Originally Posted by 2dogs
I think if that situation were to arise, one should use their brakes and or their throttle and leave the area as rapidly as possible. Exit stage left or right ASAP!
That's my feeling too. But apparently many feel that’s not good enough?
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Originally Posted by UtahPete
That's my feeling too. But apparently many feel that’s not good enough?
With the exception of our veterans and those who are paid to run to gunshots, most people do not know how to react. First thing is to remove the target.
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No, I haven't ever needed a weapon. I do my best to avoid those situations.
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Originally Posted by 2dogs
No, I haven't ever needed a weapon. I do my best to avoid those situations.
My sense is that many who carry do so as an emotional or cultural thing, rather than as a result of rational thought or real fear.
But I've learned after years on this forum that most Spyder riders are thoughtful, responsible, well-reasoned individuals, so I'm ready to accept they have a reality-based rationale for carrying a weapon even when riding.
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Back in 07 two guys wanted my Harley Road Glide,,, until they saw the open end of my 1911.
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I really don’t know, being Canadian, but I do think that most Americans feel much the came way as 2dogs describes....at least I hope they do. It would be a sad day indeed if the only way out of a situation was a GUNFIGHT AT THE O.K. CORRAL!
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Originally Posted by Joe T.
Yes, but why do you feel you need to? That's what I'm asking.
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Originally Posted by UtahPete
My sense is that many who carry do so as an emotional or cultural thing, rather than as a result of rational thought or real fear.
But I've learned after years on this forum that most Spyder riders are thoughtful, responsible, well-reasoned individuals, so I'm ready to accept they have a reality-based rationale for carrying a weapon even when riding.
Well, thank you Utah.
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28 years ago my just married bride and I rode to Mena Arkansas in October. Should have been great weather but a warm front came through and it was horribly hot. I finally decided that we would get a motel room mid afternoon and would look to depart for home at 3:00 a.m. Made sense at the time. Anyway, departed as planned and hadn't traveled more than a mile when we turned North go head home and just after turning on to the highway home this sign appears: Do not pick up hitchhikers next 25 miles, Prison Farm. So there I was just my bride and I riding 2 up at 3:00 a.m. going through a Prison farm. That's the last time I rode without a firearm. Didn't need it that night and have never needed to unholster my firearm. Better prepared than not.
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Originally Posted by bigbadbrucie
I really don’t know, being Canadian, but I do think that most Americans feel much the came way as 2dogs describes....at least I hope they do. It would be a sad day indeed if the only way out of a situation was a GUNFIGHT AT THE O.K. CORRAL!
Don't forget, that gunfight lasted less than 30 seconds, and most of the involved were either dead or wounded. Excellent lesson. It was a close in face to face shootout. Bravery is certainly helpful but it's not bulletproof.
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I have never had to use my firearm, thankfully. I carry everywhere the law allows and I also have fire extinguishers in my vehicles, shop, and house. I never lay awake at night worried that the house is going to catch fire. Feel the same way about carrying a firearm.
As far as danger compared to other countries, I really do not know.
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Originally Posted by UtahPete
My sense is that many who carry do so as an emotional or cultural thing, rather than as a result of rational thought or real fear.
But I've learned after years on this forum that most Spyder riders are thoughtful, responsible, well-reasoned individuals, so I'm ready to accept they have a reality-based rationale for carrying a weapon even when riding.
I'm an X- LEO, and I live in a State that mostly ( except for a few cities ) doesn't have carry restrictions .... The few Cities that do are not aware of what the Supreme Court has ruled recently ...... Mike
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My sense is that many who carry do so as an emotional or cultural thing, rather than as a result of rational thought or real fear.
Law enforcement carry guns to defend themselves and others from bad guys/gals.
Civilians carry weapons to defend themselves and others from bad folk.
That is rational.
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Originally Posted by seaweed
Law enforcement carry guns to defend themselves and others from bad guys/gals.
Civilians carry weapons to defend themselves and others from bad folk.
That is rational.
I suppose so, but only if you have reason to believe you run a very real risk of encountering strangers on your trip who want to harm you.
But, why do you believe that? That's where the 'rationale' aspect comes in.
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Originally Posted by UtahPete
Have you ever had to use your weapon for protection when riding?
Do you think riding in America is more dangerous than in other countries where personal firearms are not allowed?
There are differing dangers across this country that most better be prepared to handle. Maybe where you travel having bear spray is a common travel item? In other places it’s the human predator street gang member. Just like bear spray, smoke detectors, door locks, fire extinguishers and security cameras you buy them, hope they work when called upon but wish you didn’t need them. As this country is growing by a sudden huge influxes, crime is increasing unabatedly and the local situation in former secure areas have been subject to change.
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Originally Posted by Woodenfish
There are differing dangers across this country that most better be prepared to handle. Maybe where you travel having bear spray is a common travel item? In other places it’s the human predator street gang member. Just like bear spray, smoke detectors, door locks, fire extinguishers and security cameras you buy them, hope they work when called upon but wish you didn’t need them. As this country is growing by a sudden huge influxes, crime is increasing unabatedly and the local situation in former secure areas have been subject to change.
Should I take that as a 'no' to both questions?
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I'm retired LE, veteran and FBI/NRA qualified firearms instructor. I trained cops how to stay alive in a gunfight. That being said, if you find yourself in a situation, unless you or another person are in imminent danger, leave the area immediately. It's not worth the risk or trouble that will follow.
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I wish more trained teachers carried.
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