View Poll Results: When your rear tyre aquaplanes

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  • Tail swings to the Left

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  • Don't ride in the wet

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    Default RT 2010-2019 - When your rear aquaplanes which way does your RT Swing?

    Left or Right
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    With the original tire it could go either way depending on conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdMat View Post
    With the original tire it could go either way depending on conditions.
    X';s 10 ....... I firmly believe " knowledge is power " ..... however I fail to see the relevance in this ..... I guess because only a small percentage of Spyder riders are actually riding at this time of year ...... JMHO .... Mike

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    I've been lucky enough to have ridden my Spyder (& a few others besides ) with a fairly wide-ranging spread of rear tire sizes, tread patterns, & brands on a skid pan (at someone else's expense ) both in the dry and wet, even with different levels of wet.... . IMHO & experience, whichever way the rear swings really doesn't have very much at all to do with what tire is fitted, but rather it has a LOT to do with which way you are looking/steering/the road surface is cambered/the water is flowing at the time, and a variety of other things besides!! And then there's the straight line aquaplaning to consider as well....

    So all that said, I believe your poll is missing at least a couple of other potential but essential answers for it to be truly worthwhile; the first being 'Either or both of the above'; and the second being 'Neither or none of the above - it aquaplanes in a straight line.'

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    Last edited by Peter Aawen; 03-31-2023 at 05:16 AM. Reason: stuttering on both... :-/
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    Default Rain?

    Well, Generally I don't Ryde in the
    rain.
    Why, because it is not what I enjoy doing.
    I have been out ryding and got caught in a rain shower.

    The rear tire can and does slide well left or right.
    Not something I want to be doing but you never know


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    if I open the garage door and it raining or snowing, I take the truck otherwise I ride and the few time I got caught in the rain it would spin in a straight line and that was on the 09, the 2020 hasn't seen any wet weather
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    I'm relatively new to Spyders, since May of 2022. I have been caught in the rain several times, and I have to agree with Peter. I have had slippage in both directions at speed depending on road conditions, direction of travel, etc. I have also experienced a little straight line slippage in the wet, but that may have been my fault twisting the throttle.

    If you don't mind, askitee, what is the reason for the poll?
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    72 -- I think his poll is related to this https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...=1#post1666271
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    I have never had a rear tire Aquaplane

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesster72 View Post
    If you don't mind, askitee, what is the reason for the poll?
    I have the same question.
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    My way of thinking is, don't out ride the conditions, so myself I have never slid because I SLOWED down!
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    I thought it was nigh impossible for a rear tyre to Aquaplane.

    Loose traction - slip - yep but Aquaplane.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRlNC6ZTn3g
    Last edited by Peter Aawen; 03-31-2023 at 06:50 PM. Reason: neigh (horse sound) - nigh (nearly...) ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isopedella View Post
    I thought it was nigh impossible for a rear tyre to Aquaplane.

    Loose traction - slip - yep but Aquaplane.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRlNC6ZTn3g
    Yeah, the rear tire CAN aquaplane - that vid highlights the fronts, cos they're easy to notice and to show, but the reality is that while you might not notice the rear as soon, as much, or at all if you're moving in a straight line at a steady speed with a steady throttle when you'd generally notice the fronts a whole lot earlier cos you can 'feel' the float as you lose steering as per the vid; but if the tire has a contact patch with the road and the road gets wet enough, it doesn't matter if it's a steer wheel, a drive wheel, or even just a non-steering non-driving load wheel, it CAN and WILL aquaplane given the right (wet) conditions!
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    It depends. There really is no logical way to answer this question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isopedella View Post
    I thought it was nigh impossible for a rear tyre to Aquaplane.

    Loose traction - slip - yep but Aquaplane.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRlNC6ZTn3g
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    Well everyone knows " if it's on the Internet " it must be true !!!!! ............... JMHO .... Mikle
    Whatever. ............ JMHO .... Iso

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    Neither; I'm smart enough to slow down when conditions dictate.
    Last edited by cruisinTX; 04-01-2023 at 08:39 AM.

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    I earlier posted I thought it was nigh on impossible for the rear tyre to Aquaplane.
    Not impossible but very hard to do I guess is what I meant.

    I have ridden my F3 for about for about 30 minutes through a fast moving violent squall on 1 trip.
    Literally tipped water out of my boots later on.
    It was like what I call wall of water from above, standing water here and there and violent wind gusts.
    I backed it off some but continued on my way.
    I dont recall any traction problems at all.


    Seems its not unheard of at all if you ride a Can Am Spyder.
    Has been the subject of earlier discussions from more than a decade ago.

    A known possible problem in the right conditions.

    Naturally wet conditions, standing water, combined with a lightweight machine and rather large rear tyre and high speed seems to be the catalysis.

    Quite surprised some long time members have not mentioned that at all.

    Known problem.......


    So the info.
    Here is a sample of what im on about, 1 of a few decade or so old post.
    https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...Is-it-an-issue


    So there you have it, a heads up for me and possibly some others.
    Last edited by Isopedella; 04-01-2023 at 11:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrogmanDave View Post
    I have the same question.
    I took a trip up North of here and it poured the whole trip (about 3 hours), at times reduced to 70km/hr. My '17 RTL always swings to the right, it doesn't pull me off the direction of travel. Now that I'm used to it, it is less of a heartstopper. With the Kendas and Arachnid, it was a lottery for how it swung.

    We bumped into 3 Spyders at a fuel stop that night: two had bikes that also swung right, and the 3rd was unpredictable (he had Kenda's, the others didn't). We had a bit of a laugh about it and generally felt knowing which way had it's pluses.

    I was curious to see how other bikes behaved. It would be interesting to add tyre brands/types wish I had thought of that. I was sitting overlooking the ocean and thought of the poll. If anyone wants to create one feel free

    Yes, I agree that slowing down is the solution, but sometimes you'll come across of bit of road where it's not easy to determine if that's water "troughing" in a tyre groove or a bit of smooth tar, and at night it's just that little bit harder. I'm not going to stay home just because its raining - we used the same logic when on two wheels - the more you rode the more experience you gained dealing with poor conditions or sudden surprises. We would see lesser riders come unstuck in the simplest of obstacles thrown in their way.
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