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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder View Post
    The President said in a PBS interview this evening the military wanted to maximize the amount of intelligence they could glean from it while it was floating by, and to maximize the amount of salvageable debris they could collect by dropping it over water.
    Alaska waters are frozen over and we had bases there. Much easier to gain info when its on land and not at the bottom of the sea. It was a weak argument at best.
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    I have noted twice now that when a military spokesman is giving a briefing, that it is a one star general, not one of the more influential ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARtraveler View Post
    I have noted twice now that when a military spokesman is giving a briefing, that it is a one star general, not one of the more influential ones.
    He is the Pentagon Press Secretary. That is his job. That seems pretty influential to me. But then, anyone over E-5 was influential to me, when I was in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirate View Post
    Alaska waters are frozen over and we had bases there. Much easier to gain info when its on land and not at the bottom of the sea. It was a weak argument at best.
    Correct, if, and it's a BIG 'IF', you are assured the disintegration of the payload will be no worse when it lands on a hard surface like ice vs. landing on a not so hard surface like water. IMO, if the payload landed flat then the disintegration on land or ice would possibly be not much worse than landing on water. But, if the payload, which supposedly was shaped something like an airplane body, landed end first then it more likely would suffer less damage. Plus the water where it landed is only about 50 feet deep. Guys worked on material, using long poles, in water 40 feet deep at the nuclear facility where I worked after college.

    I don't remember who it was who said, "For every problem there is an answer is that obvious, simple, and wrong!" You may be correct, but whoever was charged with making the decision obviously did not see it the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARtraveler View Post
    I have noted twice now that when a military spokesman is giving a briefing, that it is a one star general, not one of the more influential ones.
    Communication with the public is a staff responsibility. 4 star generals are not staff, they're bosses! 1 star generals are staff and do the bidding of the bosses. You can be sure that whatever was said was green lighted by the bosses.

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    I hate to mention this...but we just shot down another unidentified object. This time over Lake Huron in the US. More to follow.

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    I’m having a hard time watching these extremely expensive advanced stealth fighter airplanes that require 3 weeks of maintenance after only 300 flight hours that are equipped with the latest intelligent guided missile technology flown by our very best advanced skilled pilots to take out a balloon over difficult to recover areas. Decisions like these go far to explain why I am paying $6 for a dozen eggs.
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    The first balloon cost 15 million to down.What the hell is going to be left of the subsequent objects (no one has said they are balloons} once a missile has hit them. If they even exist.
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    I've lost count of the "objects" now.

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    This one arrived in my feed today……
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    Same here.............
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    Default Lorelei Brown implicated in garage break in.

    Uncle Martin; Where are you Mrs Brown ?

    Mrs Brown: Somewhere over the Baltic sea.

    Uncle Martin; Why?

    Mrs Brown: I'm delivering brownies, they have no gas.

    Uncle Martin: Carry on.

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    I wonder why we are sending a multi million dollar fighter to knock it down. Just hire "Fred" in his Cessna and arm him a bb-gun.
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    Are the balloons a distraction while both China and Russia jungle up against us over Ukraine? Hummm just a thought.

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    The first one was definitely Chinese. The other three seem to not be. At $500,000 per missile for each shoot down, I don't think we got a good deal on numbers 2, 3, & 4.

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    Send up some more hobby balloons. You know who's making the money on this.

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    Default All is not as it seems

    Could be predictive programming at work. Makes you more accepting of future events. Normalises what would usually be a big deal. The more the general population doubt it the quicker and more frequent the events come. Control is the goal. Think what has happened in the last few years and see if you notice the pattern. Often there has been a movie about it as well to start the psychological ball rolling.
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